Povetkin: Stiverne wanted a way out....

yes it was legal, the banning of meldoniuum was politically motivated , supplements such as l.cartinine etc in the usa and western europe are proven to provide the same if not more benefits than meldonium but arent banned. you can bet your ass every american boxer are on supplements such as this, why are they taken them? why are they trying to gain an unfair advantage?

 

Thank you for revealing your agenda.

BTW, can you link any report that establishes any of the above?

Should be easy since you cite specific "facts" about amounts, who paid who, when it was paid, that there was a hooker involved, etc.

You Povetkin-is-a-white-boy-so-he-don't-cheat types are really pathetic.

 

There's no evidence except his own admissions prior to it's being banned.

The level was simply too low for him to have taken the drug for benificial purposes.

It would be the equivalent of you taking 5 mg of Ibuprofen for a broken leg when you need 8 mg of Morphine and 800 Mg of Ibuprofen every 4-6 hrs.

 

Please, the explanation is that he ingested it before it was banned and the drug lingered in his system until the test. And even though it is illeagal to ingest levels BELOW the limit are regardes as margin of error. Under the limit=you are sure enough to call doping.

There are no such studies, wich is why he got cleared. No one knows how it can stay in the system, therefore any reasonable explanation must be concidered reasonable and Povetkin got cleared.

 

its an established fact wilder had an issue with a hooker he beat up, was charged over it and the charges mysteriously dropped

why are you bringing race into it? are you a racist?

povetkin is well capable of doing wrong and he may well have in the recent case, we don't know until all the facts come out, however he did nothing wrong before and was treated terribly by the wbc.

 

the real crime here was wada banning a drug for no reason without studying the excretion times for the drug leading to all this nonsense. but it was politically motivated to begin with

 

Not a big fan of Potvetkin, though there is no denying his skills and newly discovered hunger.
When he came back after Wlad v Charr, (yeah, I know, levels) he looked like a beast. And I immediately suspected roids.
In subsequent fights, he was looking better and better.
So again, roids was my assumption.
Meldonium is a fancy aspirin, which might allow a HUNGRY fighter an extra 20 minutes on the road every day, an extra rd in the gym and an extra breath between taking a shot, but it doesn't regenerate or speed the healing of muscles.
It doesn't increase metabolism and it doesn't stimulate a man's physiology into procuing more of his own free tes.....

The fighter himself, using meldonium, just worries a little less about a heart attack or stroke when pushing himself up that last step.

It's banned. He's off of it.

Ostarine is drug involved now, which is performance enhancing. As was the amphetamine that BVerne was using in his preparations for this fight.

 

Wilder's not a biggot.
He's very friendly to caucasians and even Russians.
Andrej Fedosov was Wilders chief sparring partner in the lead up the fall out last May and told me that Wilder is classy gentleman in and out of the ring, and is friendly to everyone except ppl who go on about his wife or daughter, and I'd say that'd make most ppl pretty pissed regardless of the cowards color/nationality.

 

He took a legal sustance that improved, mentaly or factual, his performance. Bermane Stiverne took an energy drink full of chemical stuff (of wich one was illegal) to improve his performance. Im pretty sure every pro athlete uses things to improve thier performance, but as long as it is legal its legal. Maybe moraly wrong, but so i'd say beating a women if we're discussing the moral side of it.

 

he's recent comments calling every russian a cheater and untrustworthy are bigoted and xenophobic what ever way you spin it, maybe he isn't like that in private but what he is saying to the media sure is bigoted

also if he has a wife, what is he doing beating up hookers?

 

The following are proven and indisputable facts

1) Povetkin tested positive for the banned substance meldonium after Jan. 1, 2016, when it was added to the banned substance list -- no dispute: his A and B samples both were positive, Sasha and his promoter both admit that he has taken it (they claim only previous to it being on the banned list -- yet you act as if it's ludicrous that he would take it in fight preparation while he and his promoter admit that he has done so in the past)

2) Povetkin tested positive for the banned substance ostarine (it's been on the banned list for 8 years -- will you now claim it's a trace element from when he was in grade school?)

3) The WBC said in plain language in writing that if Povetkin failed another test within a year of its ruling on the meldonium that he would be suspended indefinitely from taking part in WBC-sanctioned events.

So in keeping its word, the WBC is acting disgracefully? Why didn't you, Sasha, Ryabinsky or even Vladimir Freakin' Putin object to the WBC saying it wouldn't allow someone who fails a drug test to participate in a WBC-sanctioned fight BEFORE your boy actually failed ANOTHER test?

If it's so unfair, why didn't Sasha and Ryabinsky object at the time?


4) Oh yeah, you've claimed that WADA issued a ruling that an athlete could take an allowable amount of meldonium AFTER JAN. 1, 2016, and that there are scientific studies showing meldonium an show up in a drug test after 8 years ... and the indisputable part is YOU CANNOT PROVIDE A SINGLE LINK to back up your assertion.

That's all indisputable.

 

1mg ***** deal with it.

and can you reply to what i say rather than reverting back to the usual lines of nonsense while avoiding the facts?

 

It's not legal after Jan. 1, 2016.

Every single substance on the banned list was, at some point, not on the banned list. It didn't exist at some point. People hadn't started using it to cheat at some point. Etc.

But it's on the list as of the first day of this year.

I don't know what to say about someone who compares a legal supplement (let's say I drink 3 milkshakes a day to gain weight) to a MEDICINE FOR HEART AILMENTS that someone WITHOUT A HEART AILMENT takes because it improves blood flow and allows an increase in stamina.

If you can't see the difference there, why not gamma irradiate every athlete and hope we can create green hulks to compete? Why were East German female athletes who were so pumped full of male hormones that they grew penises now allowed to let their records stand when they got caught?

Basically, you seem to say there is no cheating. If a guy brings a baseball bat into the ring, well, isn't every guy trying to do more damage when he strikes an opponent? If he tampers with the scales so a welterweight can actually weigh 220 pounds, well, isn't everyone looking for an edge? Hey, why not let them wear armor to better withstand punches? Or if the cornerman brings a gun and shoots a mobile opponent in the leg, I mean, doesn't everyone want to limit their opponent's ability to maneuver?

Seriously, do you consider there to be any form of cheating?

 

My reply to what you say is that you can't back it up with a simple link even though you claim it's easy to find.

What else do you want me to reply to? I gave you facts that are not in dispute. You cannot and have not disputed them.

Deal with it.

As for xenophobic, yeah, that's a good one. Wilder claims people cheat and they get caught cheating. Again.

 

Definition of unfair for English Language Learners
: treating people in a way that favors some over others

One boxer gets tested positive for a recently banned substance that the antidoping Agency lacks sufficient knowlegde about. An other boxer admits ingesting a baned substance, gets a fine. A third boxer tests for steroids, gets a title shot.

Banning cheaters is not wrong, banning some cheaters, letting some through without clear logic is.