Povetkin: Stiverne wanted a way out....

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What the record shows is that he was charged with a crime and charges were dismissed.

    The rest you surmise. Which is to say, you made it up -- there's no record of any check being delivered, etc. You make an assumption that it went down the way you said it did because it fits your narrative.

    Hey, you may be right. But there's nothing to back it up.

    Interesting that a thread about Povetkin failing a drug test for a second time turns into yet another Wilder hate thread.

    Even you wouldn't go so far as to allege that Wilder has anything to do with Sasha's failings. Plenty of places on this forum to take shots at Wilder. Can't we have just one thread to discuss Povetkin's drug offenses without dragging others into it?
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your right, and Wilder has a better understanding of political correctness b/c of where he was raised and the hatred he's undoubtedly seen in his life.

    The rest of the world aint the leopard of Revelation. Theyre not spotted like Murica.
    They dont understand racism as well as we do b/c theyre neighbors look like they do.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, yes.

    "For all we know." "It may be possible."

    But there's not a single study that tells us that meldonium stays in a system for years. It's "may be possible" stuff.

    It may be possible that Povetkin was abducted by aliens who carried out experiments that involved injecting him with meldonium between his third and fourth tests, and it may be possible that they turned his blood into ostarine.

    Or maybe he walked into a malt shop and ordered an Ovaltine, but the soda jerk was also a mad doping scientist with bad hearing who thought he said Osterine and gave him a banned substance shake withi a cherry on top.

    Most likely, though, he cheated. And got caught.
     
  4. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sounds like the first charges against povetkin, but there you judge?
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    Well, darn. I googled and found a New York Times article that says the patent for meldonium has expired. It's manufactured by multiple companies under a variety of different names as generics.

    So there's no trade secrets involved. If you own a chemical/pharm company and wish to do so, you can buy some legally somewhere, run a spectography to get the exact formula and start production tomorrow.
     
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  6. Saintpat

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    He has tested positive for two banned substances in two separate tests in a span of 7 months without a single fight in between.

    Has to be a record for inept cheating.

    I was responding to stuff from a series of posts that made the leap from "Wilder was charged with assault in Las Vegas" to (a) the victim was a hooker, (b) a check was made out to the victim and (c) delivered by an emissary of Al Haymon to (d) thus the charges were dropped ... as well as some stuff I didn't understand about child support and Wilder's "wife."

    That would be like me saying, "Povetkin tested positive for meldonium" and then creating a narrative that Ryabinsky went to the lab in Lavtia and got a bag full of meldonium and had the label changed to viagra and so on and so forth.

    I'm stating nothing but facts -- he failed the test after passing a test previously, which is suspicious at best and damning at worst. Then, lo and behold, he tests positive for a different banned substance.

    I didn't create a scenario out of whole cloth based on "well there were charges, they were dropped, so obviously these things happened even though there's no record of them and I'm kind of making this up off the top of my head because this is what I figure might have happened."
     
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  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is his second time, failing a test if we give Povetkin a pass we have to give Browne one.

    Anyway if Povetkin and his promoter as so suspicious of this vada witchhunt why not sue them he has the money and why keep fighting to get to a mandatory spot for the WBC belt?
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can you say vada can be easily corrupted, if they caught stiverne on something?
    You don't think povetkins Russian testing is more easily corruptible by a Russian billionaire?
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    That's not what Povetkin apologists were saying earlier this year.
     
  10. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    stiverne got let go.

    they are a private company based in america, any private company can easily be corrupted, they don't answer to anyone.

    when has povetkins russian testing came into question?
     
  11. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    please read up on what happened with meldonium. thank you
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Lol ok
     
  13. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    thank you.

    all peds cases aren't equal, to label them all as the same is doing them a dis service.
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I'm not, in fact I haven't said anything on the matter. In fact, I gave Povetkin a pass for the meldonium at the time.
     
  15. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    well you had to give him a pass, he didn't do anything wrong to be fair
     
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