Povetkin. The next great heavyweight?

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  1. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's my opinion.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I've heard this claim before but i don't see the fat.

    Here he is against Fox, at 220lb:

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    And against Castle, also 220lb:

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    Now i don't see how he carries more fat than Sonny Liston, 212lb:

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    Povetkin also had no problem carrying 225lb over 10 rounds against Larry Donald, while Liston only entered 220+ lb when he was over 35 in age and probably not in the best shape.
    The only conclusion is that he is two inches taller than Liston and equally wide considering he's a bit heavier than him.

    Just because he is smaller than the Klitschko's and Lewis doesn't make him a small heavyweight. He's got good size for a heavyweight.
     
  3. janitor

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    While he is not fat at 220 lbs he is not exactly ripped like Joe Louis either.
     
  4. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think he's a natural endomorph, like Tyson or Frazier. Due to the whiteness of his skin, he looks less ripped than either of those two. For instance, Ricky Hatton doesn't look as fit as he is because he's as pale as a frightened ghost.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    No hes 10lbs overweight with love handles
     
  6. The Kurgan

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    If it wasn't for the fact they'd knock you senseless, you could feel about and find the same flesh deposits on Frazier and Tyson. It's not that endomorphs are lazy, it's that their metabolism works differently.

    The people who are both tall and fat (I saw a lot of them in the States) are the real disgraces to the human race.
     
  7. Executioner

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    Joe Louis was not ripped.
     
  8. janitor

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    I have never seen a picture of him where he did not have good definition. Not even in the Marciano fight.
     
  9. janitor

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    If you look at Listons midrif here he has far more muscle definition than Povetkin has at 220lbs. I think Liston had a big torso that was never going to produce a slimline waist even while in top condition.
     
  10. Grabonator

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  11. Grabonator

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    Endomorph?? What is that? And i wouldnt compare Povetkin to Tyson bodywise BTW!! Tysin was always ripped. Povetkin is not ripped. But hes not overweight or out of shape.
     
  12. Jack

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    It's what your body type is classed as. Tyson, Marciano, Frazier and Povetkin could all be classed as "stocky" fighters. Short, but they carry 210/220lbs well.

    Someone like Diego Corrales or Thomas Hearns would be classed as ectomorphic, just for reference. Very tall, but light for the rest of the body.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Povetkin does not have 5-6% body fat on him. Povetkin has a normal amount of body fat on him. Boxing can be a funny game. An extremely cut guy can be low on stamina, while a normal body fat person can be high on stamina. I do think Povetkin is bigger than Louis, but smaller than Liston. I have not seen Povetkin’s full tale of the tape yet. In my judgment he’s got a big upper body, especially in the neck and chest.

    We have all seen Ali near 220, Louis near 216 and Frazier near 215. IMO, at those weights Ali, Louis and Frazier have more fat on them than Povetkin does at 225. So I think Povetkin is a bit naturally bigger / more compact in his build than the above trio.

    I don’t think Povetkin fights or moves like Louis at all. Povetkin is much quicker with his feet and can dart in or out of range, maintaining his balance. Louis was a bit of a shuffler with his feet and needed to set them before unloading. Louis was not as swift going forwards, backward, or circling with his feet, which is why he had stylistic issues with quicker boxer types. Povetkin is dynamic with his feet. A bit like Frazier who absolutely destroyed the smaller quick boxer types.
     
  14. Executioner

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    He had good definition but I would not say he was ripped. I'd consider someone like Holyfield ripped.
     
  15. janitor

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    You are right apart from Louis. Louis was totaly ripped at 216.