Povetkin vs. Ortiz.

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  1. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    So that's how Ortiz looked like pre-steroids. :lol:
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He was roughly about 30lbs lighter back then.
     
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  3. polishstud53

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    the video is not of POVETKIN but of POVERNOV a bald german
     
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  4. Vysotskyy

    Vysotskyy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Interestingly Povetkin and Ortiz are the same age at 36.

    That's Povernov. There's also video of Roman Romanchuk beating Ortiz at the World Cup.
     
    Vysotskyy, Dec 21, 2015
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It is Alexander Pov and Alexander Pov beat Ortiz in the amateurs. :deal

    And so what if he's bald it doesn't make him any less of a person or indeed less of a fighter either.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes that was a good little fight, one of the highest scoring amateur contests I can recall seeing. Romanchuk was a real talent (RIP)
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Alexander Pov looks like he would've suited the pro game

    Here's his partial record

    2011-10-04 201 Vasiliy Levit 201 Baku AZE L by pts. 16:8 ?-?
    2011-10-03 201 Bahram Muzaffer 201 Baku AZE W by RSC 3 ?-?
    2011-09-26 201 Gunnar Kolbeinn Kristinsson 201 Baku AZE W by RSC 3 ?-?
    2008-04-08 201 Elchin Alizade 201 Athens GRC L by pts. 18:11 ?-?
    2008-02-27 201 Artur Szpilka 201 Pescara ITA L by pts. 29:21 ?-?
    2008-02-26 201 Mahdi Khanj 201 Pescara ITA W by pts. 28:4 ?-?
    2008-01-31 201 Tervel Pulev 201 Plovdiv BGR L by pts. +15:15 ?-?
    2007-10-30 200 Clemente Russo 200 Chicago, IL USA L by pts. 17:5 ?-?
    2007-10-26 200 Krzysztof Zimnoch 200 Chicago, IL USA W by pts. 18:10 ?-?
    2007-10-24 200 Bogdan Dinu 200 Chicago, IL USA W by pts. 18:4 ?-?
    2006-07-21 201 Roman Romanchuk 201 Plovdiv BGR L by RSCO 3 ?-?
    2006-07-20 201 Clemente Russo 201 Plovdiv BGR W by pts. 30:21 ?-?
    2006-07-16 201 Tarhan Yildirim 201 Plovdiv BGR W by RSCO 2 ?-?
    2005-11-19 200 Alexander Alexeev 200 Mianyang CHN L by pts. 36:33 ?-?
    2005-11-18 200 Luis Ortiz 200 Mianyang CHN W by RSCO ?-?
    2005-11-17 200 Beka Lobzhanidze 200 Mianyang CHN W by pts. 32:12 ?-?
    2005-11-14 200 Vedran Djipalo 200 Mianyang CHN W by RSCO ?-?
    2005-06-09 200 Clemente Russo 200 Cagliari ITA L by pts. 28:19 ?-?
    2005-06-07 200 Krzysztof Zimnoch 200 Cagliari ITA W by RSCO 3 ?-?
    2004-02-21 201 Kubrat Pulev 201 Pula HRV L by pts. 21:15 ?-?
    ? 2000-03-07 201 Felix Savon 201 USA L by WO
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    And here's Luis Ortiz's

    According to this he used to be a lightweight. Fought Pernell Whitaker at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics :patsch:lol:

    2008-01-24 202 Robert Alfonso 202 Holguin CUB L by pts. 13:0 ?-?
    2008-01-23 202 Wilson Piel 202 Holguin CUB W by RET 2 ?-?
    2008-01-21 202 Efren Echemendia 202 Holguin CUB W by pts. 11:1 ?-?
    2007-01-17 201 Ismaikel Perez 201 Sancti Spiritus CUB L by pts. 24:22 ?-?
    2006-02-01 201 Isael Alvarez 201 Bayamo CUB W by pts. 24:10 ?-?
    2006-01-30 201 Glendys Hernandez 201 Bayamo CUB W by pts. 12:8 ?-?
    2006-01-28 201 Ismaikel Perez 201 Bayamo CUB W by pts. 28:5 ?-?
    2006-01-26 201 Yukleidis Fuentes 201 Bayamo CUB W by pts. 26:4 ?-?
    2005-11-18 200 Alexander Povernov 200 Mianyang CHN L by RSCO ?-?
    2005-11-17 200 Viktor Zuyev 200 Mianyang CHN W by pts. 46:37 ?-?
    2005-11-14 200 Lukas Viktora 200 Mianyang CHN W by pts. 30:9 ?-?
    2005-10-02 201 Rafael Lima 201 Teresopolis BRA W by RSCI 4 ?-?
    2005-10-01 201 Francisco de Escurra 201 Teresopolis BRA W by RSC 1 ?-?
    2004-01-28 202 Michel Lopez 202 Camaguey CUB L by pts. 18:10 ?-?
    2003-01-27 202 Michel Lopez 202 Holguin CUB L by pts. 20:5 ?-?
    2002-12-06 200 Odlanier Solis 200 Havana CUB L by pts. 15:5 ?-?
    2001-01-25 201 Noel Perez 201 Santiago de Cuba CUB L by pts. 16:5 ?-?
    1999-01-22 201 Felix Savon 201 Sancti Spiritus CUB L by RET-4 4-2
    1998-01-26 178 Isael Alvarez 178 Villa Clara CUB L by RET 4 ?-?
    1984-08-11 132 Pernell Whitaker 132 Los Angeles, CA USA L by AB 2 3-1
    1984-08-09 132 Martin Ndongo Ebanga 132 Los Angeles, CA USA W by pts. 3:2 3-1
    1984-08-08 132 Jose Hernando 132 Los Angeles, CA USA W by pts. 5:0 3-1
    1984-08-05 132 Alex ****son 132 Los Angeles, CA USA W by KO 2 3-1
    1984-08-03 132 Buala Sakul 132 Los Angeles, CA USA W by KO 2 3-1
     
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  9. Serge

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    Mike Perez Wpts 24:22 Luis Ortiz
    Luis Ortiz Wpts 28:5 Mike Perez

    Alexander Povetkin KO1 Mike Perez :deal
     
    Serge, Dec 21, 2015
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  10. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz is alot more mobile at 91kg. But I assume the extra 30-35 lb also includes muscle for punching power. The pro game is better for sluggers than the amateur game.
     
    ludwig, Dec 21, 2015
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  11. On The Money

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    People are getting too waxed about this roid pumped monster, he's lucky Jennings gave him the fight. I feel sorry for Bryant, no doubt in my mind he's a clean athlete unlike his opponent. There should be a code of compulsory independent testing for all hw boxers and you cannot compete unless signed. I would say orgs like the bbboc or NSAC could refuse to sanction any pro fighter or bout not signed up. The cost should be a fixed deductable from all fights, a percentage for bigger bouts so it stays funded. Too much shenanigans and a positive for a steroid like Nandrolone should be a life ban.
     
    On The Money, Dec 21, 2015
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  12. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Speaking honestly, almost nobody mentioned Ortiz on this forum a month ago, he was a half-anonymous. Obviously, he is a great puncher, chin and stamina are still questionable. He defeated only one top ten HW, unfortunately he is 36, and he has to do everything he can until 2018. I'm not sure if he is on Povetkin's level, and I would like to see this match. And, dude looks like hitman, after boxing he could be an actor in Tarantino's movies.
     
    zop, Dec 21, 2015
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  13. PRINC£

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    Jealous Klitturd :|
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He's still very light on his feet and mobile for his size. Tyson Fury is the only other current SHW I can think of who is as well.
     
    Serge, Dec 22, 2015
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  15. Alexandrow Vids

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    Ortiz by Knockout

    The reason is the fight with an agressive Marco Huck who has almost
    managed to beat Povetkin by Knockout and Ortiz punches way harder
    than Huck including featherfist Klitschko.
     
    Alexandrow Vids, Dec 22, 2015
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