Povetkin, Wilder, the WBC, and lawsuits

The WBC are at fault here for not taking necessary precautions irt to the very real potential of a "BELOW" 'ILLEGAL' limits of a newly banned substance.

Wilder is CERTAINLY not to blame here, nor is Potvetkin, however, as he never denied using the medication to aid him in his training prior to it's becoming illegal.

Wilder could have said F it, and followed thru on the fight, knowing the amount was under the legal limits, but instead chose not to risk it, not knowing what advantages it might possibly be giving Potvetkin.

I personally don't believe it would have aided Potvetkin in the least.

This fight has ALWAYS revolved around Wilder's power and IF could maintain discipline until such time that he could unleash it on Potvetkin.

Potvetkin, roided to gills even, had only the punchers chance at winning this, and of course, the whole robbery scenario.

Neither of those circumstances are changed in the slightest with this "failed" test.

To put it mildly, Wilder could be KO'd by Hughie Fury. That is, IF Feather-Fisted Baby Hughie could put em together on Wilder, who's own power has been enough defense to keep fighters quite honest in his pro career, outside the journeymen like Sconiers, Firtha, and Gavern who went for broke knowing their best would not be enough without the gambles.

Potvetkin though is a TRUE top 5 HW, who has the unique combination of power, skills, handspeed, footwork, and chin to not be forced to take the necessary risks, but rather to work through a fight plan A and a fight plan B to get his KO shot through.

Essentially, this fight is very much like Khan v Canelo, with one GLARING exception, that Wilder is likely the hardest hitting HW in the game today, while Khan had only his speed to keep Canelo off him.

Ultimately, that fight ended as we knew it would. Canelo landed....Khan took his 10 second nap.

This fight though would be far closer to 50/50 as Wilder's speed is his best advantage over Potvetkin, but his power could just as easily force Potvetkin to take a 10 second nap. atsch

F/N WBC......if they didn't foresee the potential for this, they DKSAB, and should have had an arrangement in place before negotiations for this fight even began.

For instance, rather than a per lb penatly as many mega-catchweight fights include, this fight should have had a BHOP style NDA included with a specified monetary penalty imposed on Potvetkin should he be under the "legal" limits for the banned substance still, but still showing traces of it randomly, knowing the potential for it's recurrences.

Say, 100K/nanogram or whatever. So, an additional 700K to Wilder for Potvetkins level, but the show goes on. atschatschatsch

 

Rums, it was in their contract that if either party fails testing that the fight would be called off. Pov failed. If Pov doesn't have his B sample tested, then he will/should be suspended. The WBC contacted both guys and said that the fight is cancelled.

The only suit that Pov can file is keeping his mandatory status, and if they try to sue the WBC...he more than likely will lose his mandatory status. If's he's suspended, he will lose his status. My question is WHO I he going to sue? Wilder can sue Pov to get back training expenses and he will win. Pov just needs to let this all ride out.

 

Wilder did attempt to contact the WBC to let the fight continue, but the contract stipulated that if either party failed, the fight is off. The WBC did the right thing. You can't let a guy still fight with a banned substance in his system because he can keep using that same banned substance to his advantage while under the WADA limit. This is the part people are missing.

 

No they Don't Andrei Ryabinsky, the guy who is putting on the fight is a Billionaire. He does this as a hobby and doesn't make any money from it.. He is just a huge fan of boxing.

 

he didn't fail the test.. anything over 1000 mg would be failing the test according to WADA.. Povetkin had 70 nanograms .. a nanogram is a billionth of a gram!! isn't that crazy? a billionth

 

He failed the test. This isn't a limit thing. You fail any test if you test positive. You then check to see what the limit is, how much is in his system...and at your request your B sample can be tested. Now...if you fall under the limit...then a decision can be made.

 

And on top of that he failed a test after having negative tests. The amount found in his system seems to show that he tried to mask the usage. He can't sue the WBC at all. He can maybe sue fat Dan who released the info that's about it. Who is to say that even with nanograms of Meldonium in his system that he wouldn't try to keep on using Meldonium.

 

wbc was correct in stopping fight and wilder should sue ....for povetkins cheating cost wilder close to 6 million dollars and training expences /travelling ...povetkin cheated costing wilder millions ...wilder sues povetkin for being a full blown cheat / wach tested for banned substance and didnt fight for 25 months/ teper also caught got a long sentence for cheating ...povetkin should also get the same and get sued for cheating and costing wilder his lively hood ..

 

atsch He had nano-grams of Meldonium in his system (insignificant) amount), not an anabolic steroid for christ sake The WADA has yet to provide evidence that Meldonium is more effective than creatine or other TRUE legal performance enhancers.

 

This^

As it stands now, advantage Povetkin if Wilder tries to back out entirely.

But if VADA finds that Sasha used after 1 Jan or that he masked it, he is SOL and up the creek without a paddle.

 

Wouldn't the Russian courts hold jurisdiction for any suit he wanted to file civilly vs Ryabinsky?

As I understand it, it's a Russian promoter holding an event on Russian turf. I can't pretend to know the ins and outs of the Russian legal system, but it seems like that would be nothing but a money pit for Wilder.

 

I just don't see Povetkin coming out on top of this debacle.

 

Some games only have losers. This might be one of them.

Povetkin's lost the opportunity and damaged his reputation. Wilder's lost the preparation time, training and travel expense, and the payday.

We all lost what was going to be an entertaining fight.

 

My guess is that no one sues anyone.

Wilder will sign to fight with Joshua for 50 million. He will surrender the belt and Povetkin will pound some ham-and-egger like Stiverne for it.

Everybody happy.