Povetkin's KO win over Whyte is one of the greatest single wins in boxing history

mark ant · Aug 27, 2020

Big Ukrainian said: ↑

It's a great win, no doubt. But still Foreman's win over Michael Moorer and Larry Holmes' win over Ray Mercer were better since Whyte is clearly inferior fighter comparing to Moorer or Mercer
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Whyte is better than Mercder was when he fought Holmes, Whyte has a tight high guard that Povetkin was struggling with, Morrison wws boxing Mercer`s ears off before getting caught, the only thing Mercder had at that time that Whyte doesn`t was a great chin.

christpuncher · Aug 27, 2020

Luis Fernando said: ↑

It's not the fact that Povetkin beat Whyte, but due to the context under which he won. For:

1) He was 40+ years of age.

2) He has a young man's style, which is not suitable for a 40 year old due to it being very taxing and demanding in terms of energy and durability.

3) He has been participating in combat sports for over 2 decades and therefore has extremely high mileage.

4) Knocked out a top 5 current heavyweight.

5) Knocked out Whyte in his own country with everything stacked against him.

Now find me one other past heavyweight, who has a win similar to the one Povektin has over Whyte, under such contexts. You won't be able to...

Beating Whyte, in and of itself is nothing all that special or ground-breaking, since Whyte is nothing really special to begin with himself. So somebody beating Whyte in their primes or at a young age is not very impressive.

However, to do it under the context Povetkin did it, when everything was stacked against him, due to age, mileage, style not suitable for an old age, and doing it in his opponent' backyard is what makes this arguably the greatest and most impressive win one can have.

Most other past heavyweights that are classified as 'greats', could not even come close to achieving or doing what Povetkin did against a top 5 heavyweight, with even half the disadvantages stacked against Povetkin, much less all of them.

An old Mike Tyson could not even beat Danny Williams or Kevin McBride, despite being younger than Povetkin and despite Danny Williams and Kevin McBride being inferior to Dillian Whyte.

An old Ali with a style that is much more suitable for an old age due to it being less energy or durability demanding, was already showing signs of Parkinson at a much younger age and losing to inferior heavyweights than Dillian Whyte in a younger age, such as Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick.

Even Holyfield was losing to the likes of James Toney, a blown up super middle-weight who was never a real heavyweight to begin with, when at same age as Povetkin is now.

Whereas Povetkin has still not lost to a single opponent that is not the undisputed top 2 current heavyweights in the world today.

So Alexander Povetkin's name deserves a lot more credit and respect. He is doing what no other heavyweight in the past has been able to do. So he's proven he deserves to at the very least, be mentioned in the same tier of greatness as those other 'great' western heavyweights.

The only reason why the likes of Povetkin are underrated, is because there is a prejudice, especially by people from the west, against Russian and Eastern European boxers. More so in the heavyweight division than any other, since heavyweight has always been dominated by boxers from the west, before Eastern Europeans were allowed to compete.

Now take that prejudice and bias perspective outta the window, and evaluate objectively, and you'll find Povetkin is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

The only thing that perhaps counts against Povetkin, is that he never held an ABC belt. But given that there are so many belts today, and given that many of the belt holders have factually an inferior resume to Povetkin, and some of them have even been directly beaten by Povetkin himself, not holding a title does not diminish his greatness in anyway shape or form.

Everyone who is honest, would know that Povetkin was robbed of unfairly from ever being given a chance of holding a belt during his peak years. And they had to frame him to get him off the picture. Otherwise, he would've been the one at the top for the last few years, and not Joshua or Wilder. He would've killed the hopes of the cash-cows from having their fairy-tale matches or trilogies.

Only Wladimir Klitschko is physically and stylistically all-wrong for Povetkin. Otherwise, he is at least a dangerous and a tough match-up for an opponent in history.

The only other boxer who is doing what Povetkin is doing at such an old-age with such a young man's style is Manny Pacquiao. Otherwise, such performances are unprecedented!
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Take a breath, read the post below yours, reacclimate yourself to reality, and have a pleasant evening.

IntentionalButt · Aug 27, 2020

DrederickTatum said: ↑

Have I been transported to a
different reality where George Foreman didn't beat Michael Moorer to become a unified champion at 45?
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Who's president in your homeworld?

dinovelvet · Aug 27, 2020

40+ Tony Thomspon has wins over Price , Maurice Harris and Solis x2

McCall over 40 beat Oquendo , Lance Whitaker , Franklin Lawrence

CST80 · Aug 27, 2020

Devon said: ↑

Why can’t you stand Whyte?
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I don't hate Dillian, or even intensely dislike him. I just like rooting against him, because of the deranged unhinged fervor of his fanboys, they actually convinced themselves that someone who went life and death with Chisora twice, and should have lost to Parker, who's chinny and has more technical flaws than you can shake a stick at, was one of the elite in the division, who Wilder and Fury were ducking. So I wanted to see him hanged, to bring them back down to earth. That being said, Whyte did believe his own hype, and opened his mouth a little too much, barking out insane proclamations about fighters he had no chance against. But whatever, that's what boxers do, no big deal. Still, it doesn't make it any less entertaining when they get their comeuppance.

vast · Aug 27, 2020

It was huge considering the context.
Povetkin has hung tough at 40 and kudos to him.

While Whyte is over-hyped, I would not call him a bum in todays HW landscape as he has beaten some decent fighters.

The Long Count · Aug 27, 2020

It’s a great win period. Anytime you beat the number 2 rated heavyweight by Ko in their back yard it’s a good win. To do it, at age 40 after years in the sport and in decline is a great win.

As for everyone now claiming Whyte is a bum, since giving Joshua a very good fight he went on to beat :

Chisora 2x
Joseph Parker
Oscar Rivas
Lucas Browne
Robert Helenius
Mariusz wach

Among others, he has been very active and against good competition. It’s a great win for Povetkin.

An all time win? I don’t know about that. But a win that can win you both comeback fighter of the year and KO of the year Yes. A win that can land you one more big payday and one more shot at glory Yes. A win that can make you border line hOF boxer Yes.

Povetkin needed that win. He now has a very good resume and is the best heavyweight to not hold a major belt in a little over 20 years. Not bad at all.

VVMM · Aug 27, 2020

Luis Fernando said: ↑

It's not the fact that Povetkin beat Whyte, but due to the context under which he won. For:

1) He was 40+ years of age.

2) He has a young man's style, which is not suitable for a 40 year old due to it being very taxing and demanding in terms of energy and durability.

3) He has been participating in combat sports for over 2 decades and therefore has extremely high mileage.

4) Knocked out a top 5 current heavyweight.

5) Knocked out Whyte in his own country with everything stacked against him.

Now find me one other past heavyweight, who has a win similar to the one Povektin has over Whyte, under such contexts. You won't be able to...

Beating Whyte, in and of itself is nothing all that special or ground-breaking, since Whyte is nothing really special to begin with himself. So somebody beating Whyte in their primes or at a young age is not very impressive.

However, to do it under the context Povetkin did it, when everything was stacked against him, due to age, mileage, style not suitable for an old age, and doing it in his opponent' backyard is what makes this arguably the greatest and most impressive win one can have.

Most other past heavyweights that are classified as 'greats', could not even come close to achieving or doing what Povetkin did against a top 5 heavyweight, with even half the disadvantages stacked against Povetkin, much less all of them.

An old Mike Tyson could not even beat Danny Williams or Kevin McBride, despite being younger than Povetkin and despite Danny Williams and Kevin McBride being inferior to Dillian Whyte.

An old Ali with a style that is much more suitable for an old age due to it being less energy or durability demanding, was already showing signs of Parkinson at a much younger age and losing to inferior heavyweights than Dillian Whyte in a younger age, such as Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick.

Even Holyfield was losing to the likes of James Toney, a blown up super middle-weight who was never a real heavyweight to begin with, when at same age as Povetkin is now.

Whereas Povetkin has still not lost to a single opponent that is not the undisputed top 2 current heavyweights in the world today.

So Alexander Povetkin's name deserves a lot more credit and respect. He is doing what no other heavyweight in the past has been able to do. So he's proven he deserves to at the very least, be mentioned in the same tier of greatness as those other 'great' western heavyweights.

The only reason why the likes of Povetkin are underrated, is because there is a prejudice, especially by people from the west, against Russian and Eastern European boxers. More so in the heavyweight division than any other, since heavyweight has always been dominated by boxers from the west, before Eastern Europeans were allowed to compete.

Now take that prejudice and bias perspective outta the window, and evaluate objectively, and you'll find Povetkin is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

The only thing that perhaps counts against Povetkin, is that he never held an ABC belt. But given that there are so many belts today, and given that many of the belt holders have factually an inferior resume to Povetkin, and some of them have even been directly beaten by Povetkin himself, not holding a title does not diminish his greatness in anyway shape or form.

Everyone who is honest, would know that Povetkin was robbed of unfairly from ever being given a chance of holding a belt during his peak years. And they had to frame him to get him off the picture. Otherwise, he would've been the one at the top for the last few years, and not Joshua or Wilder. He would've killed the hopes of the cash-cows from having their fairy-tale matches or trilogies.

Only Wladimir Klitschko is physically and stylistically all-wrong for Povetkin. Otherwise, he is at least a dangerous and a tough match-up for an opponent in history.

The only other boxer who is doing what Povetkin is doing at such an old-age with such a young man's style is Manny Pacquiao. Otherwise, such performances are unprecedented!
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Before the knockout punch against Whyte Povetkin was inferior to Tyson's McBride pefrormance.Every decent fighter can win
by a lucky punch.The ko punch was only one remarkable thing by Povetkin against Whyte.A lucky win that's all.

DrederickTatum · Aug 28, 2020

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Who's president in your homeworld?
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Al Gore was getting getting ready to serve his sixth consecutive term.

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