Povetkin's Promoter on Wilder: Don't Dope, There Will Be Testing

Wilder is a light PED user (Most Heavyweights use more PEDs than Wilder), Wilder mainly used them to make some gains because he was literally a Cruiserweight & had to do a few cycles to bulk up to 220s) He doesn't need PEDs for the Povetkin fight, but it will not hurt if Wilder can reach 230s & 240s without losing speed, which seems possible. On the other hand Povetkin is completely dependent on PEDs for fat loss, gains, stamina, keep the new gains alive, his body is much less athletic & will need a variety of PEDs to stay on top level.

With Ryban insistence on controlling the drug testing he wants to ensure Povetkin will have the unfair access to the best PEDs, while depiriving Wilder of that extra advantage. A true drug free fight, will get Povetkin KOed before the fight starts, mutual access to PEDs is still in Povetkin favor, because Wilder has little needs & mostly gains associated which need much more time to eventually reach 240s. So if team Wilder want the true advantage over Povetkin in this case its a true drug testing, but this will cause the fight to be cancelled, because Povetkin will not be able to fight with No PEDs, his body willl literally go into withdrawal & will need at least 1 year just to make a full recovery. Middle ground will be what the Russians want, but still negotiate with is no drug testing & this has to be done fast to take the pressure of Wilder & let him experiment with new PEDs without having to worry about masking

 

Right because Russia is the standard for clean athletes

 

Every Heavyweight uses PEDs, in Povetkin case he will suffer greatly with no PEDs, because of his body type/condition opposed to naturally athletic Heavyweights who need much less PEDs & use it in a complimentary manner.

PED use should be allowed & eventually Rybansky will allow Wilder to come with no testing, but team Wilder should make sure they use this as an opportunity to experiment with new PEDs & ensure Wilder shows up as comfortable as possible, without giving Povetkin more advantages than he already has of fighting in the comfort of Russia :smoke

 

BS!

Wilder was no light PED user.
You don't need PEDs to bulk up from say, 190 to 220. This is total BS.

When I was around 185 and wanted to add more bulk, all I did to make that adjustment was to change my diet to ingest more natural protein.

Each morning I started the day with a T-bone steak and eggs or a fresh piece of grilled Tuna and eggs. Then at night I had another steak and potatoes.
2 months later I weighed 218 and added more muscle by adding new exercises in the gym.
I have never even seen a PED in my life and even if I did, I would never even consider taking them.

People who say, every athlete takes them are full of ****. Every athlete doesn't take them.
The people who always say this are usually the ones who are taking them. :yep

 

35 lbs of muscle in 2 months is what your insinuating. Not by adding steak and eggs for two meals.
Maybe six months, maybe.

 

Wilder didn't just gain BS weight (muscle), his body looks a bit less gracile, which means more than likely very low dose HGH & small T to gain muscle

Anybody can put up a few lbs of gains, as long as they keep training old school boring & waste of time. The best gains (only good for Heavyweights because no loss of division, is minimal HGH with T to start off) & if athletic/young as Wilder you probably don't need extra PEDs to maintain the gains.

These are boxers not average joes who want to just bulk up & don't care who their boxing output changes, in Wilder case it didn't matter, because his skills where still basic & there was no certain muscle path for high quality balance he needed to maintain (opposed to Mayweather who has to be very careful & take a sophisticated path)

Its possible to gain weight by eating alone, but its surely not recommended for boxing :nono

To be fair so far no record of Wilder or his team acquiring any PEDs or, but many heavyweights casually (team members) get access to the goods, which come from very limited sources & its known who buys them. Its just an assumption that Wilder team gets them from other sources, because he made high quality gains (opposed to many boxers who fail to maintain speed even with PEDs), this was possible due to Wilder very athletic genetic make up. On the opposite corner poorly bred Povetkin is built like a bear & at his age every lb of extra gains & fat loss needs all kinds of PEDs to stay healthy (recovery, conditioning into boxing), once they try to reduce PEDs/hit tolerance or even cycle of some of them they get the ugly injuries...So they have to take long layoffs that are more common in modern boxing or be lucky to have good genes in the first place.

 

Well its possible to ad that much weight if you were sculpted skinny & turn into average soft built (which is acceptable amongst non-boxers). With clothes on they look more built, which is considered a prefered look in the streets vs a clothed sculpted skinny look. So thats his non-boxing success story, that doesn't apply to boxing :nono

In boxing the best gains are at Heavyweight, where the boxers maintains or even improves the fat%, maintains speed & stamina, all which goes against nature & need PEDs

A great PED success story (with boxing disadvantages that were managed via excellent matchmaking) was Manny Pacquiao, he made impressive high quality gains from Flyweight to Welterweight, all without losing any speed & looking extremely sculpted. However, its a bad blue print, because average boxers will not enjoy the one time opportunities & facilitation of the whole boxing landscape Bob Arum ensured, in order to inflate Manny Paquiao value. Manny Pacquiao wasn't eating steak & Eggs :yep

 

I was also drinking high protein shakes in between meals and cut back on my running. It may have been 3 months but definitely less than 6.

 

Its the same undesired extra gains undisciplined boxers incur between fights, when they decide they want to chill a bit.

Don't get Julio Cesar Chavez jr. vindicated :nono

 

No, I gained bulk and had more definition.
The problem I had was when I hit 220 I felt less energetic and lost stamina, so I modified my diet again and cut 10lbs where i was 210.
People at the vitamin store recommended many synthetic supplements like the ones people here recommend but I don't take those people seriously because they are probably pro-steroid use.

Like BHOP, I don't have a need to cheat to beat. No gain comes for free without any health trade-off. :good

 

With all respect, don't use "like BHOP" :nono


BHop was a Spartan who weighed around 190 as a 23 years old, turned pro fighting at 177, then mainatined a long career fighting below 160 (as low as 156) well into he had grey hair on his back.

He will not be delighted to be compared to some egg & steak eating average joe ... after starving himself from such pleasures for a longtime of his life :nono

You have to become a Spartan before using "like BHOP"

 

Its the hurt game, the side effects of PEDs are always there, especially with big use. The chemistry of the brain ensures that there will be consequences for every action, so no doubt in that.

That part said:

The side effects of gaining weight from undispiplined eating are by far more dangerous than PEDs, your organs are surely not excited dealing with the extra weight even if it was roid good muscle (without giving them additional gains) most gains will be horrible & regardless of the nature of the gains they will hurt your organs from one angle or another.

HGH gains are much safer and easier on organs, because as in your teens organs grow with HGH, of course the side effects are many, because those gains are unconditioned (for many aspects in life) & nobody researched that yet, but at least in boxing even a 100% proportionate HGH gain will degrade the quality of the punches because their was no vertical gain, had HGH made scale-up gains, it would have been the best thing ever to happen to boxing & the only side effect will be massive scary heads, because there will be no reason to stop the gains & it will target skilled boxers to save time :smoke

 

Ah...well at least your working and not sitting on your ass. 218 is what I weigh, but I didn't get there from 180 in 3 months. But, at 51, 4 or 5 hard workout sessions a week is all I can take anymore.
Good luck with your goals.

 

I use the comparison meaning, Not A Part Of The Steroid/PED European culture.

 

If Roids and PEDs were that great then the military would use them. But they don't.
When I was in the military and under their defined weight/height ratio you know what they prescribed? Extra rations, not PEDs. Instead of one serving at meals, I got to eat two. Russian military probably would issue Steroids or PEDs, but not the US.

I would never ever use HGH or any other unnatural PED like that when I can achieve the same results naturally. :smoke

I can't comprehend why Europeans are so PED use.
Just because they use them like aspirin they believe everyone should.
When Usain Bolt beats everyone in track, Europeans insist he must be on PEDs, just because they need them to compete.
Fact is, Jamaican and many Asian countries just have a better understanding of natural foods, herbs and spices than Europeans. Items that achieve the same results as synthetics. :yep