Povetkins record from 2014 is wiped

Wow,

Another one of David Price's knockout defeats, off the table due to PED's, and that was a brutal knockout.

Four of his first five defeats, all by stoppage, two by brutal knockouts, all too known drug cheats—you can only imagine the second-order effects those had on both his career and mental and physical wellbeing.

It would be hard for Price to live with that if he wasn't using himself.

 

No way to know, is there? To me it's unfair on Povetkin as he's only, in my opinion, a product of his environment (i.e. the wider sphere of sport).

There was a time where Povetkin transformed his shape and looked like a killer, but only a fool would believe he wasn't doping prior to that. He had clearly changed his protocol. Maybe somebody can remind me. I remember actually reading an article about his physique transformation before it all came out. It was headed up by a photo of him in a gym looking into the mirror doing shrugs or something like that.

 

The Dillian KO still stands in my head tho

 

It is a sickener, you have to feel for Price. I recall Bisping getting violently KOd in the UFC and them being popped after for PEDs.

 

The Whyte one is okay to stay as they are both serial users.


Big Pricey should make a comeback.

 

100 %

The guy Bisping lost was the same one he lost his eyesight too, crazy to think he fought on and won the UFC title with only one eye.

VItor Belfort, the same guy who knocked out the shell of Evander Holyfield.

 

Yup, only Price and those who were around his inner circle will know for sure, but if he wasn't, you have to wonder how his career would have panned out had he gone all in on the PED's, or if it was a level playing field.

Prior to the Thompson fight, he was arguably ahead of Fury in the pecking order to succeed Wlad.

It's the journeymen you have to feel for; the top pro's all know that PED's are widespread throughout the sport, and thus if you want to compete at the top level, it will be hard for them to resist the temptation. Especially with the money involved at the elite level, and being that professional boxing is such a short career.

It's just like cycling during the Armstrong era, whereby the most talented boxer in the world is probably someone we have never even heard of, just because he didn't conform.

With those at the top just simply being the one's with a mix of talent along with the best doping and promotional setup.

Easy to see why a lot stay amatuer now, especially with the funding available.

 

Isn't it just the IBA who've announced this? Not seen anything about any of the professional bodies removing results.

 

Not entirely correct. Belfort did damage his eye but wasn't the reason he lost that eye. Although it could be argued he contributed towards it.

 

All second-order effect's from the original kick to head that a juiced-up Belfort landed, Eubank could also argue that the punch he landed on Watson didn't lead to his subsequent brain damage.

Ironically, OJ Simpson got away with murder on a similar technicality.

 

No, Belfort detached his retina, he got surgery that repaired it. He then sparred too soon after surgery against drs orders and it got damaged again meaning he needed surgery, after botched surgery his eye got infected and he lost it
He got his eyesight back after the Belfort fight and then lost it again after the botched surgery later after a sparring partner damaged it.

 

Precisely,

Second-order effects of the original kick to the head, which caused the detached retina.

i Know the story; I've read Bisping's book and listened to a number of interviews and podcasts of him talking about it.

Not too sure about the point you made about him getting his eyesight back after the Belfort fight; I've always read and heard that his sight remained impaired after the original detachment, which possibly went undiagnosed at first?

Either way, I get your point.

 

No bisping caused by going against Dr orders before it was healed. The injury isnt as rare as it sounds. He got it fixed was able to see again etc. Was told to wait a certain amount of time before competing again, ignored then got it injured again. That's on bisping.

I watched the podcast with rockhold and rampage where he said, that he got it sorted, "stupidly" got back in the cage before he should have. But the operation after the Belfort fight was successful. He said that during surgery from damaging it in sparring he woke up early during surgery to see the needle coming straight to his eye, which suggest he could see. It was when he came out of that next surgery after the sparring that he lost his sight in his right eye. He tried to sue the drs not Belfort which shows you where his blame lies. He also says he doesn't hate Belfort cos of the injury but he hates him cos of his fakeness and lies and ofcourse for being a cheat.

 

Crazy to think he carried on after all that and then went on to win the UFC title. fighters at that level are a breed apart.

His last fight, you can tell his eyesight was gone, as he couldn;t see the shot and walked right into it, yet he was still cleared to fight.

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