Power 180-200 pounds

1) In the post you quoted in your reply I wrote that Schmeling "needed another half a hundred clean right crosses to the jaw to finish Louis", instead you are argueing that Louis was better the time before the KD.

2) I certainly didn't see even a hundred of clean flush punches to the jaw of Baer in that fight. Probably several tens of clean hard ones right to the jaw.

3) When Tua landed clean flush left hooks on occasions, Ibeabuchi didn't feel well at all. But it didn't happen often enough.

 

Might as well throw in Baer, too. Braddock said he hit harder than Louis (no, I don't beleive it. but he said it).

 

Schmeling wasn't a huge puncher. He was a good puncher who kept his power with him as the rounds went on. Schemling had good accuracy and timing with his blows.

I have Schemling vs Uzcudun, Sharkey, Walker, Max Baer and Young Stribling. Schemling could not hurt Uzcudun, Baer or Sharkey. Sharkey did not have a good chin. It took Schmeling 8 rounds of punishment to stop middle weight Walker, and 15 rounds of punishment to stop light heavyweight Stribling.

Schmeling did not KO anyone decent early. He simply was not a lights out puncher.

Regarding the Louis fight, Schemling had Louis hurt early. Louis could not recover. Schemling boxed cautious, occasionally landing hard right hands, but IMO the stuff he landed was not any harder in the fights with Stribling and Walker.

 

It comes down to this at the end of the day.

Failure of fighter A to knock out fighter B can just as easily be a function of power of fighter A or durability of fighter B. It can only be used as an indicator of the power of fighter A if fighter B has been knocked out by other fighters.

Surely you apreciate this simple logic?

 

Louis himself said in his autobiography that stunned as he was Schmeling should have got him out of there a lot earlier.

 

Mickey Walker said Schmeling was a murderous short puncher ,but then he was a middleweight.

 

It is a matter of styles. Schmeling is a defensive conterpuncher who happens to have a substantial walop.

This means that he will take a long time to put oponents away relative to his power and will put some serious hurt on them in the process.

 

He fought enough heavyweights to judge which were the better puncher of the day.

 

True. The films show a stunned Louis for many rounds. Louis did not recover from blows as quickly as say Ali or Holmes. Schemling was thought to be past his best in the first Louis match. In truth I think he won the match more on skills as much as power.

 

You're again putting yourself into a corner. Now you are trying to argue that Louis' chin was so bad that a single clean right cross not only hurt Louis badly, but basically won the fight for Schmeling. Louis was known for his recuperative abilities, now all a sudden it was one punch that desided the fight?

 

I would have certainly remembered if somebody landed 250 clean hard punches to the jaw in just 4 rounds of boxing. Over 60 clean hard punches to the jaw every round? Impossible.

When was the last time you watched this fight?