What I'm looking for here is, results from fighters, specifically KO's/TKO's, that don't align with people's rankings or perceptions of power. For example: If fighter A KO's fighter C, D, and E in one round each Then Fighter B KO's fighter C, D, and E on average about round 10 or doesn't KO them YET, you constantly here that fighter B hits harder. So I'm looking for results where fighters seemed to get better power results from common opponents, yet seem to be rated behind in terms of power by boxing Experts/fans.
I don't think their can be one as has been stated before the factors involved with whether or not a fighter can KO fighter A and not B but the other fighter KO's both....it is too superficial of an assessment style matchup, timing, conditioning and focus there are too many variables anyone that thinks it is as simple as matching the 2 punchers against the same guy is simply being ignorant. Its like the discussion of Tyson not hitting as hard as Morrison based off fighters opinions which is flawed to begin with for example Pinklon Thomas stating that Morrison just hurt him more with everything 4 years between fights it doesn't mean anything the longer you fight the older you get things hurt more....the biggest flaw is taking the word of a fighter as gospel for several reasons the least not being he was getting punched in the head for a living.
Well, that thread, and others over the years are why I made this thread. Many times I've seen the, well this fighter doesn't have more power than that fighter, BECAUSE that fighter get better KO results again the same fighters. The Morrison/Tyson thread is an example. So I was just trying to see some other possible examples all posted here.
That’s a pretty good question. One example would be Henry Cooper knocking Ali silly with a single left hook yet Foreman could not seem to hurt Ali.
Suggest you let slightly loose mentions be included as your topic can cover so much valuable landscape. Even guys that shocked going the distance with bombers.
Do you have the situations of Fighters A and B reversed here? Wouldn't fighter A, who KO's the other fighters in one round, naturally be considered the harder hitter? And by harder hitter do we mean more effective, proven KO artist? Or just some lunk who could jack up a PSI machine and who we have probably never heard of. Because throwing hard punches and landing hard punches are two drastically different undertakings.
Yeah, I corrected that bud. I'm looking for examples of against common opponents, where the general perception of who hits harder doesn't match the results. So no, nothing to do with PSI or people who aren't really known. More looking for known quantities where stuff doesn't seem to align.
Erm... Vicente Rondon going 10 rounds with Shaver's yet getting stopped by light heavyweights John Conteh and Bob Foster, and even middleweight Bennie Briscoe?
I'd say Frank Gorn. He could hit hard enough to smash boulders to powder but he had serious - and I do mean serious - hand speed issues. He never really went anywhere in boxing but had a minor career in showbiz. This content is protected
Yeah I understand why you started the thread it is a good thread and can give insight into how realistic the sources of others opinions
Foreman MD Alex Stewart; Moorer and Holyfield took him out in 4 and 8. Foreman loss ud Morrison; Bentt took him out in one and Mercer did in four. Foreman loss md to Briggs; Wilson took him out early. Foreman ud Grimsley; Thunder ko1 Grimsley. Foreman md Savarese; David Izon ko5 Savarese.
I will say this about Frank Gorn. I think he would have little problem with facial cuts. The guy's skin looks as tough as leather.