Power = Speed X Mass

Why did it take until only the last 20 years or so for Boxers to figure this out?

Prior, most HWs in history were in the 220s and and below.

 

Bro, we out here in febyewairy you talking about like we just had Christmas doe.

 

its force, but not mass x speed. Its mass x acceleration(rate of speed increase).

Power is different, its work x time.

Sorry for slightly nerding, carry on.

 

Thickness/heavy hands seem to be the answer.

Ive been thinking about this for years and have been paying attention to how fighters are built.

Timothy bradley looks like a KO artist but his hands are very thin. So is paulie malignaggi.

Tua, butterbean, Conor mcgregor, pacquiao, foreman, shavers, joe lous, beterbiev, wilder all has/had THICK hands.

It really may be that simple.

** to add

A .22 bullet has the velocity of 335m per second, weighs 0.003 kgs. It has the impact of 168 KE in Joules.

A 9mm bullet has the weight if 0.0075 kgs, 353 m/sec velocity, and has 467 impact.

More than 3x power with less than 10% more speed, and 2.5x in weight.

 

You go girl!

 

Good post and spot on. Technique is the X factor.

Two guys the same weight can punch with the same speed, but they won't have identical technique. Power depends on how you turn into the punch, how/where/if your feet are planted, where your hand starts from as you begin to throw the punch etc., all of that is technique.

 

Not to be cute, but I think F=MA refers to the force that moves (or is required to move) the mass.

Not completely different but that equation doesn’t necessarily speak for the max. transfer of the force - that’s calculated via an equation for impact force.

In boxing terms, ideal transference of that force comes down to the calculation for impact force.

The shorter the collision time, the greater transference of force - in boxing terms, that would be the equivalent to having snap in one’s punch, immediate recoil after full contact as opposed to pushing one’s punch -

At his best and fastest, Joe Louis had amazing snap to his punches - as if they literally detonated on impact.

 

Speed x mass is an oversimplification.
You would have to account for the surface area, the hardness of the surface area, energy leaks in the mechanical chain, the path the punch takes, etc. Whole bunch of factors to consider if you are trying to quantify punching power.

 

One or two posts imply that the reasons why some boxers have devastating punching power is beyond scientific analysis. I don't think that's very likely. If scientific analysis can land a probe on a comet, or give us a good idea of how tumour suppressor genes work, or figure out quantum interactions, then it's more than capable of working out why some boxers have devastating punching power. There are levels of difficulty and complexity within research. Applied biomechanics isn't anywhere near the top.

So, it's not that science lacks the tools to work it out, it lacks the motivation and funding. Providing a complete account of why some boxers have got heavy hands isn't ever going to be an international research effort or attract the greatest minds of each generation.

 

Not always the case. Paulie had elite hand speed but one of the biggest pillow punchers. Hand genetics matter. Beterbiev is the perfect example of that.