Power to the people ... or Hearn and Warren

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Tyson Furry, Jan 5, 2019.


  1. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    So boxing should be reduced in price so everyone in society has access to it?
     
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  2. Inglis_1

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    Way to miss the point he's trying to make but yeah, that would be nice Eddie.
     
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  3. TonyHayers

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    I don't think I've missed the point at all. (By the way, am I now actually Hearn himself and not just an employee?)

    He seems to be saying that those who suggest twenty quid isn't much are living some fairly luxurious lifestyle, and for people who are struggling to get by that amount of money can make a huge difference. I doubt anyone disagrees with the latter, but is that not the same for literally everything? Clothes, holidays, football tickets, restaurants, bars, cinema and so on? Does he have the same opinion of those?
     
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  4. Tyson Furry

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    (Nice as it would be) ‘Asking’ for a reduction in price isn’t the point - the point of the original thread is for ‘people to turn their back of PPV’, most notably the lesser fights, to force the issue. If fans who ‘can’ don’t buy, PPV naturally becomes less sustainable, benefitting all fans in the future - SHORT TERM PAIN - LONG TERM GAIN
     
  5. im sparticus

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    Yes Tony but 2 wrongs don't make a right. You can't justify boxing been expensive to follow just because football is as well.
    Yes they are both traditionally working class sports but they are both out if the reach of most working class family's, especially ones who are bringing up a family.
     
  6. TonyHayers

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    Did that not happen ten years ago though? PPV sales were dramatically lower than they are now, and for a while we pretty much didn't have PPV in this country.

    Also, fans do 'turn their back' on the lesser fights. This is why you have something like Joshua Klitschko doing 1.5m buys and Eubank v Quinlan doing 80k.
     
  7. TonyHayers

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    I'm not justifying boxing being expensive because football is as well. I'm saying ALL sports are expensive to follow and have been for some time.

    You'd be hard pressed to find a more working class sport than darts. Fancy going to the Premier League? £25 or so for the cheap seats, plus your cost of travel. Stick a booking fee on top, add in the fact that if you fancy a pint it's six quid a throw for a plastic pot of garbage, food costs a bomb, and for that you get five short format games which you have to watch on a big screen anyway. Yet the tickets for those things sell like hot cakes.

    Therefore we're not comparing like for like here. Saying boxing is out of reach for working class families is probably true. But so is just about every sport going. It's a shame but it's just not how the world works. Everything, from holidays to cars to nice clothes to restaurants is financially out of reach for some people.
     
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  8. ZiggerZagger

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    I think it’s market forces mate , if enough people are willing to pay for something it will sell . Then every Tom , Dick and Harry will jump on board with the same type of product to male a few quid too.
     
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  9. Tyson Furry

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    ... Eubank got less views than Joshua? You don’t say (!) Turning away from PPV means less punters paying - in particular for the likes of Eubank /Quigg / Whyte who are not worthy of an extra £20 on top of a sky sub - hopefully fans have woken up and will turn their backs, because if PPV continues to spread down to the lesser fights, the resulting decrease in viewing figures will have the same effect as has been seen with cricket - last Ashes win on terrestrial tv generated a massive surge in viewing figures and participation - now, since being on Sky, most people would struggle to name the captain
     
  10. S.K

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    I know full well why they are taxing sugar, I’m in the industry. The fact is it won’t do anything to help diabetes or obesity. Are you telling me an obese person will not pay the extra 20p for a bottle of coke? Obviously they will, it’s 20p. Hence it’s a money grab. Also, there’s loads of evidence out there that diet drinks are WORSE than sugary ones. If people are going to be lazy fat *******s then charging them an extra 20p isn’t going to stop thst in any way shape or form, anyone knows that, the government knows that, hence they’re taxing knowing it won’t stop or help diabetes / obesity but doing it anyway for the revenue.

    Your analogy is completely wrong. I’m not stealing anything for a start to what the hell are you on about? Your analogy would be more accurate if you said in it that you then found out a way to get your Tesco shopping for free.
     
  11. 305th

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    Sure you do. PS flogging protein to your gym mates doesn't constitute "being in the industry".

    If you think that "only 20p" won't have a marked effect on people buying sugar-filled drinks if there is a cheaper, non-sugar alternative that tastes the same, looks the same and made by the same company and resembles the higher priced alternative, then you have no concept of the economic principle of elasticity of demand as I mentioned earlier. More importantly, no concept of how fickle people are when it comes amounts far less than 20p.
     
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  12. Tyson Furry

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    ... And this relates to PPV in what way? What about Schrodinger s Cat analogy - if I don’t watch the fight, does it still happen?
     
  13. 305th

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    We're discussing the price elasticity of PPV's you midget brained heathen. Funnily enough, it can be related to other products, such as the effect on sugar filled soft drinks and the effect or non effect of the sugar tax.

    Now I'm sure you want a discussion about ring girl tits or ring walk out music.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The extra cost might not put them off but it might well pay for their treatment.
     
  15. Tyson Furry

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    But what if I’m a diabetic and I only feed sugar to horses? Can I claim a rebate?