PPV BUYS: Mayweather and Pacquiao Discussion

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  1. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Hard data:

    Pacquiao

    Marquez I 360,000
    Morales I 350,000
    Morales II 360,000
    Morales III 350,000
    Solis 200,000
    Barrera II 350,000
    Marquez II 408,000
    Diaz 250,000
    De la hoya 1,250,000
    Hatton 850,000
    Cotto 1,250,000
    Clottey 700,000



    Floyd

    Gatti 340,000
    Judah 350,000
    Baldomir 320,000
    De La Hoya 2,400,000
    Hatton 925,000
    Marquez 1,050,000
    Mosley 1,200,000

    All the PPVs in their entirety.

    IMO:
    Solis was a tuneup and Diaz was not "the man" at lightweight. Otherwise, they had comparable numbers, give or take a bit. The Hatton fights with the two were nearly equal, so were the Mosley and Cotto fights, old/shot debates aside.

    Two outliers in the data include DLH and Marquez, both in Floyd's favor. Lurking variables for these fights include the fact that 24/7 BEGAN with the DLH vs Floyd fight, as well as the consensus that DLH was not as "shot" as by the time he fought Pacquiao, and additionally the notion of DLH vs Pacquiao at the time as a 'joke fight,' that Manny was going to get walked on.

    Marquez can be explained by the timing of the fights, with Manny fighting him pre-DLH, while Floyd fighting him post. Success in sales was also attributable to the mutual competitiveness and controversy with the decisions in the fights Marquez had against Pacquiao.

    Clottey vs Pacquiao is a third outlier, which can be traced from Clottey's lack of PPV history and following.

    Overall, their history is mostly similar and naturally mutually deserving of an even split in the pot.

    These are all my opinions, feel free to discuss.:good
     
  2. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    50/50 or 60/40, 60 for whoever wins.
     
  3. sosolid4u09

    sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 banned Full Member

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    60/40 to the winner. flashbacks of b-hop vs RJJ negotiations
     
  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Problem is, with that much money flowing it would invite a fix.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    50-50. if one fighter demands a higher split, he is the one trying to dodge or duck the fight.
     
  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Cotto is a bigger draw than Mosley. If you don't believe that, go compile Mosley's PPV numbers when he's not facing Oscar, Floyd or Cotto.

    Last 5 fights each?

    4.3 million total for Pac.
    6.58 million for Floyd.

    And people want to act like Pac is the bigger draw?
     
  7. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Did you even attempt to read the first post?:patsch Flotard
     
  8. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it wont! will make sure that both will give a good fight inside the ring. not the kind that Clottey did againts PAC, same can be said about Mosley againts Floyd. not throwing enough.
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    nah mosley is an american and while cotto is also american technically, he is actually a puerto rican. the buys that were added from puerto rico was only around 100k. mosley is more recognizable in america than cotto except maybe in new york. and add to the fact that GBP puts an insane amount of money to promote and hype floyd-mosley while Top Rank doesn't spend too much in promoting.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Cotto has unbelievable support in New York. He has been a bigger PPV draw than Mosley for some time. Mosley for whatever reason never really was a draw unless he's in with another fighter.

    Floyd outsells Pacquaio on hard base evidence. He outsells him on fights against fighters that Pacquaio has fought before/after too.
     
  11. nubianprince

    nubianprince Active Member Full Member

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    From your post then it seems numbers dont lie. Simple.
     
  12. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    He outsold Pacquiao on fights that had extreme circumstances that you refuse to see.
     
  13. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    where are you guys getting the Mosley/Floyd numbers from? i havent seen them.
     
  14. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Stop posting cliche's and understand that what my post really says is that there are variables that affect the numbers. :patsch
     
  15. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Google buddy, the numbers are pretty ballpark, but efficient enough to infer from.