PPV is killing boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by andyw362, Apr 25, 2011.


  1. andyw362

    andyw362 Active Member Full Member

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    Is boxing killing itself by being too greedy? I think so. If not killing, then definetly damaging itself.

    I can understand Mayweather and Pacquiao being on PPV. But what other sport makes the fans buy each and every match/bout?

    Where are the next generation of fans going to come from if the sport is never seen? How are casual fans going to get into it when boxing is never on free to air TV?

    Amir Khans fight was is a perfect example of how short sighted the sport has become. Sky quite rightly would not sell the fight as PPV because they said the card was not strong enough.

    If Khan had any sense, he would have took the hit financially on the McCloskey fight and allow the fight to be broadcast on BBC or ITV for free. That way, after a good performance, he can sell more PPV's for the upcomming Bradley fight. He could have used the Mcloskey fight to show what the public what he is about.

    Example no 2. Carl Froch. 2 time WBC super middleweight champion, one of the fighters of last year. Yet he has no profile in the UK to the casual sports fan. Why? because nobody has seen any of his fights.

    In the 80's and early 90's when fights were free to air, boxers were superstars in the UK. Bruno, Nas, Eubank, Collins, Benn etc... Thats because casual fans could tune in on a saturday night, or happen to stumble on a good fight by chance and get hooked. Froch can only dream of being as well known as those old timers.

    Why dont the WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF bring in some sort of rule whereby a % of fights have to be available on terrestrial free to air networks? It would cost the promoters and boxers money intially, but in the long run it is making the sport bigger and eventually more profitable. :think
     
  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    This **** should all be on public television.
     
  3. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They're already working on that by airing the World Series of Boxing for free, which includes boxers from all types of backgrounds
     
  4. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This has been said in America for 20 years now.
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    PPV, boxers fighting once a year, a million orgs with a million belts per weight, promoters, the best not fighting the best, no non cable bouts on like channel 2, and a heap of other things have combined to hurt boxing
     
  6. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    It was in the 80's.. And boxing was much more popular back then!
     
  7. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    PPV can work if it's sparingly used and reserved for only major fights and are supplemented with well rounded under-cards.

    Boxing can't afford, imv, to put out PPV duds that leave casual fans with a bad taste in their mouths.
     
  8. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch's fights used to be on ITV 4 which most people have for free but he's still pretty unknown to casual sports fans. I don't recall if his fight with Taylor was on it but I'm pretty fight with Pascal was and that didn't get anyone into boxing despite being a good fight.

    I agree with you to an extent but it's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. Free to air stations won't pay enough because they don't think anyone will watch it, no-one will watch it because they don't know enough about the boxers. PPV probably contributed to boxings relative lack of popularity but scrapping it wouldn't necessarily lead to hordes of new fans straight away.
     
  9. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It has gotten out of control. JCC Jr. headlining ppvs is not a good sign for the direction boxing is going. I give Showtime a lot of credit cause they seem to air the biggest non-ppv fights the most.
     
  10. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but you can't compare boxing from the 80's to now, those fighters were cut from a different cloth
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Very true . . . but it's making boxers richer. :D
     
  12. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not really the PPV itself, it's the fact that boxing has a tough time getting sponsors, and often promoters put absolute **** on PPV.

    The biggest fights weren't free before, they were on closed circuit, which is a lesser viewing experience IMO than PPV. But you also had boxing on network TV, a lot of good stuff on Saturday afternoons, and good stuff on HBO as well. Being on CBS should help a fighter's popularity/visibility than being on HBO, or some independent PPV.
     
  13. happylora

    happylora Member Full Member

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    Boxing was only more popular in the 1980's because many of the best fights were on public television.

    How many new fight fans might the sport have won if Maidana - Morales had been on CBS. That fight was the equal of Duran - Barkley but how many got to see it.
     
  14. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the cable tv era. This is an individual sport and the only sport big enough for terrestial TV left is football in America. I don't agree that some fights should be PPV, but they wouldn't be put on at all otherwise. HBO and Showtime have a budget, they only will buy fights they see fit to air and that they know will be watched. Their budget only goes so far, they can't afford great big fights because of what it costs. So PPV is the way, I don't like it, but in order for it to be on terrestial tv again it can't be speratic, big fights would have to be weekly, or in a season so advertising space could be sold. American football gets billions of dollars a year from TV networks, but they can sell the ad space, and people know they can tune in every sunday for football september through January. It sucks but boxing the way it is with the money that is shelled out for one fight has to be on ppv, ESPN2 has friday night fights, this is available worldwide on espn3 live, all the best fighters fighting now started there. Kudos to ESPN for budgeting enough money so the average fan can see fights too. NBC tried a 5 week saturday fight card in 2005 I believe, sponsored by budweiser, it never came back, no ratings. That is where I first saw an undefeated Kermit Cintron. We have fight night club coming up this week too. The money is not there for big fighters without ppv, but the more up and comers we can get on cable or regular tv the better.
     
  15. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing is being reborn now in it's new home, Germany, so I wouldn't worry about it to much. What a great Country Germany is for boxing, sold out massive football stadiums plus over 10 million viewers watching for free on their tv at home, fantastic. I expect within 20 years we will see at least 5 new World champions coming from Germany precisely because of this. Not forgetting that Russia and the rest of Eastern Europe are also just beginning to get the feel of watching their Country men compete at the highest level, again with millions of new viewers, central and Eastern Europe is going to become even bigger than it is now in the coming years. Boxing in Europe is really only starting to begin now and i'm looking forward to it. Let the USA and the UK kill the sport with ppv, plenty of other nations will show them how it's done.