Pre 1980s boxers that could beat Lennox Lewis?

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  1. SuzieQ49

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  2. Seamus

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    Are we going to take Lewis on his best night or worst? Are we going to throw him in with say, Shavers, on HIS best night?

    Prime for prime, at optimal performance, I take Lewis over all other heavyweights except 67 Ali and 79 Holmes. I give a decent but less than 50% chance to Joe Louis. I give 30% chance to Liston and Foreman. i give close to or equal to 0% chance to anyone else.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

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    Considering the results...you have to give at least a 50% chance to Oliver Mccall and Hasim Rahman
     
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    I just watched 6'1 225lb 35 year old ray mercer jab Lennox Lewis to death and nearly beat him. I can only imagine how much better of a job Sonny Liston would do in there.
     
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    [url]http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1620&cat=boxer[/url]
     
  6. Neverchair

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    Why pre 80's?

    Surely their aren't any fighters who could beat a prime Lewis post 80's?
     
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    :rofl:rofl
     
  8. tommygun711

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    you're exactly right. plus Sonny has a longer reach thn mercer and has faster hands, hits harder, and has more punches.
     
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    Perhaps you should spend less time posting inane comments and more time thoughtfully reading. I stated "at his optimal", not distracted with movie making or training like a slob, but at his very best. A focussed, well-trained Lewis destroys both McCall and Rahman... well, like he did in fact do.
     
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    I see you offered a slew of excuses for Lennox not being at his "best", despite him being in his prime years. They are what they are, excuses. I can make excuses too. Oliver Mccall was in no way shape or form ready to fight Lewis in the rematch. He had severe mental problems that should have not even allowed him to obtain a boxing liscense. Lennox did not beat Mccall when he was at his best.
     
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  12. tommygun711

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    a lot of them would beat him, and some would certainly give him a fight. the ones that would best him:
    Ali, Louis, Holmes, Liston, Foreman, And Frazier.
    probably a few more too.
     
  13. Seamus

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    I totally agree with you here but then we are talking of his legacy (wherein his inconsistency factors) and not really a head to head match-up at optimal preparedness (which I stipulated in my post). Head to head, he beats both guys 9 out of 10 times. Lewis, at his best, is perhaps the most difficult match-up for any and all heavyweights in history with the exception of prime Holmes or the "what could have been" 67-69 Ali.

    I thoughtfully construct and edit each post with the care of a Joycian scholar. I expect you to read them with the same devotion.

    Is there some shitty fight on tonight?
     
  14. Ponysmallhorse

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    He was just starting his work with Emanuel. It wasn't his best fight. And Ray Mercer is Ray Mercer.
    And ring was designed for midgets which played well for mercer.