pre 1990's boxing...was alot of american success due to always playing on home turf.

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  1. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really dont understand how you can not think that the influx of eastern euros into the pros has had an effect on USA being dominant, take out all of them and america dominates from middleweight all the way up to and including heavyweight
     
  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And yet the best fighter in the world is...drum roll please.... an American.

    Some of you on here need to get a grip. Seriously.
     
  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Idiotic post.
     
  4. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Name a trio of Euros that are the equal to SRL, Robinson, or Ali.
     
  5. lillarry

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    Lol you're comparing a list comprised of Hall of Famers to a bunch of Euro gate keepers. Like I said, today's field of heavies is ruled by two great fighters, thats it. Which one of the "greats" besides the Klits have a shot at the Hall of fame?
     
  6. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only 4 of the 71 list are hall of fame, the likes of mac foster, a 40 year old sonny liston, 185lb cooper, urtain, garcia, etc are only able to be considered top ten because there wasnt all the eastern euros competing.

    There will be other fighters around today that will be HOF, whoever dominates for the 5-10 years after the klitschkos will have a shout at hall of fame. Foreman has been inducted but not based on what he had done upto 71. Sonny liston is HOF but not based on what he was like in 1971.

    My point with that list of eastern euros was to demonstrate that they are a reason for the USA no longer dominating divisions today, if you take them all out, like how it was pre 1990 (although there may have been some eastern euros), USA still dominates the division. So I dont see how you can not agree with that being a reason.
     
  7. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    your ******ed,

    because we all know from years of watching sports
    that home field advantage means nothing

    as proven in super 6 lol
     
  8. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lazlo papp,jimmy wilde, Valeri Popenchenko


    hard to equals
    but anyone who saw popenchenko seems to think that he was


    too bad you never even heard the name
     
  9. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and as far as heavyweights go

    i agree 110 percent that 70's heavyweights were better
    and probably the 80's and 90's as well

    but then again because vitali and wlad,
    the rest of the former ussr heavyweights....are not as good as the russian guys from the
    70's.igor vysotsky,ivanov,etc etc

    many people in russia will tell you this.

    and again no need to lump all of europe and russia into 1
    huge cultural and boxing differences.


    even in success most of russian-ukrainian success is in heavyweight
    well europeans whatever polish or germany or brit
    have more success in light heavy,super middle etc
     
  10. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The reason for putting most of the europeans in together with the russians is because their move into professional came at the same time and is mostly in the larger weights, UK and boxers from what was west germany are separate as they have always had some success,
    but since the 90s there have been many boxers coming from former ussr countries, east germany, bulgaria, hungary, romania etc
     
  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with you ,guess your too ******ed to notice sarcasm :good
     
  12. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually you dont agree with Highguard, he noticed you sarcasm and disagreed with you as you seem to be saying home advantage doesnt mean anything, Highguard was being sarcastic when saying it means nothing which you seem to have missed
     
  13. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    true in one sense but
    there were already some guys training more before 1990 from those places
    but not russia.


    just being from russia, i can see the huge differences between the european countries and russia.
     
  14. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thanks buddy
     
  15. Manning

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    Thread starter this is why during the pre 90's the Yanks had success.