Pre-planned one punch KO's

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Maxmomer, Jun 3, 2008.


  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,373
    42
    Jun 28, 2007
    Who were the best at setting traps to KO their man in one shot? Langford, Fitzsimmons and Moore immediatley spring to mind. Basically, I'm asking about excellent trap-setters/finishers. Guys that could feint you into knots, and maneuver in all the right ways, knowing full well the whole time what they're doing and what they're leading to. Did Jack Dempsey ever do this? (That last question is pretty much directed at Janitor.)
     
  2. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,143
    916
    Nov 17, 2007
    Foreman trapping Moorer is one good example.
     
  3. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Is it? I don't recall him trapping Moorer.
     
  4. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,373
    42
    Jun 28, 2007
    Aha! I forgot about that one. That was a thing of beauty. I don't give two teaspoons of dick sauce what Moorer says, that wasn't just a lucky punch.
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

    19,404
    278
    Oct 4, 2005
    Not a lucky punch, but not a planned thing either.

    I mean, sure, he planned to land a 1-2, but it was just that. A 1-2. Two of them actually. Moorer was stupid to stand in front of him; trapping had nothing to do with it.
     
  6. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,373
    42
    Jun 28, 2007
    If you say so.
     
  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    You disagree? What did Big George do to trap Moorer?
     
  8. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

    4,920
    12
    Feb 14, 2006
    foreman-frazier1.the big underhand right hand big george kept throwing through the middle at the swarming joe.
     
  9. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,373
    42
    Jun 28, 2007
    Not saying I believe for sure one way or the other, but I've read that George wasn't going all out throughout most of the fight because he didn't want to scare Moorer off and blow his shot. He knew that his only chance at winning was going to be by KO and he waited for the perfect oprotunity before he punched Moorer in the head full force. Once again, I'm not saying it's true, just something I've read.
     
  10. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Well if that's the case George is a bloody genius!:D
    Jokes aside, I don't believe Foreman was tactically astute enough to try something like that.
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Well if that's the case George is a bloody genius!:D
    Jokes aside, I don't believe Foreman was tactically astute enough to try something like that.
     
  12. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,373
    42
    Jun 28, 2007
    Seems to be a lot of double posting going on today. Strange. Anyway, I think George smartened up a lot in his second career, and I wouldn't put it past him to have thought up something like that, I'm sure he put a great deal of thought into the fight beforehand, it was his biggest and best shot at getting the title, and I doubt he was prepared to let is slip through his fingers.
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    My personal take is that George (as was always the case) had his best chance of winning early on, and that he knew it. The way I see it, he just caught Moorer with enough on the end of his punches to stop him. No planning, no traps, just keep going and see what happens. Punchers always have a chance of winning, as long as they're punching.

    Edit:

    That's not to say he fought like a mindless robot, but I don't think much cerebral activity went into getting the knockout.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

    41,963
    3,442
    Jun 30, 2005
    Moorer said Foreman got lucky, but at the same time, apparently told Jim Lampley that he was out on his feet from the first 1-2.

    Wilfred Benitez helped set up that overhand right on Maurice Hope with a couple of nice feints. I think he dropped him a round or two earlier, so that helped make Hope more weary and susceptible to the feints.

    Roy Jones set up that body shot KO on Virgil Hill with right hands over the top. Lederman was talking about how he was going over Hill's jab with right hands. This time it came lower and most likely surprised Hill.

    It's a little tough to see sometimes when exactly they're setting them up and how, since fighters on that level obviously have a higher boxing IQ than most of the viewers watching. But I'm going by what it appears to me.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,733
    Sep 14, 2005

    Yes it was. Foreman is just a phony on camera, off camera he is the same ole Mankiller texas george. moorers right, that punch was was lucky one.