Premier Boxing Champions Will Fail. Why? The Law Of Diminishing Utility Of Course

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  1. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So predictable how the threads detractors respond without even gleaming the premise of it's content. They dig their teeth into some benal piece of minutia that through their intellectual lazy nature seems to counter the entire concept presented to them.

    In short; The information overwhelms them so they obfuscate.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    My thoughts exactly, but didn't want to come right out and say it.:yep
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You forgot to bump it when Figueroa fought Burns ... or the week after that when DeGale upset Dirrell ... or the week after that when Algieri and Khan squared off.

    In three months, they've put on nine shows. Seven (the three above as well as Thurman-Guerrero, Chavez-Fonfara, Berto-Lopez and Garcia-Peterson) of those nine were exciting.

    If they can put on seven exciting main events out of every nine, they're going to be wildly successful.

    Excellent start after just three months.

    Broner-Porter is in two weeks. Sounds like another good one.
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The rate in which boxing is currently being shown in free TV is roughly similar to the rate in which is was shown during the 1970's. It's hardly a case of the market being saturated on either occasion.

    At absolute worst, boxing will remain a "niche" sport (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). At best, boxing will gain prominence- and that's not necessarily a bad thing, either.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Correct. Boxing didn't leave network television in the U.S. because of over-saturation.

    It left network television for three main reasons:
    * Deaths in the ring caused many advertisers to bow out.
    * HBO began paying more money than the networks, so the top names switched to fighting on cable.
    * Beginning in the eighties, network executives began targeting more sports that appealed to women (which boxing didn't)... and it exploded in the 90s when sports that appealed to a female audience were embraced.

    The opposite is true now ...
    * PBC is wooing networks by paying for the shows themselves - hoping to win new advertisers down the road with ratings.
    * Deaths in the ring are a fraction of the number they were 30-40 years ago.
    * HBO and Showtime had fewer dates/smaller budgets to televise boxing, so PBC has signed deals with multiple networks and pay fighters very well
    * More women follow/compete in boxing than ever before. Boxing is one of the most popular workouts for women in the U.S.
     
  6. CST80

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    You have to take into consideration the mindset of the viewers from the different eras, people in the 70's didn't have the internet, iPhones, etc. all they had was TV or the radio, but in this ADD generation as I pointed out in the OP we don't have near the patience that people had back then, or even in the 80's or 90's. As far as oversaturation goes, there wasn't that many channels even in existence and they weren't all showing Boxing every night of the week. 2 to 3 Boxing cards a week on channels many haven't even heard of will become inundating for some people and they'll lose interest.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know where you've been, but there is boxing on every single day of the week.

    Every day.

    Seven days a week.

    On some channel.

    For years now.

    Those channels just didn't have the reach of the networks. And most of those fights aren't live. But there has always been a lot of boxing on TV because people watch. And it's easy to produce. And, unlike a lot of sports, the ring has always fit nicely on a small TV or Computer screen.
     
  8. iestyn501

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    since pbc has been on, i have got alot more interested in the sport. as they are showing more thanks al hayman.
    On the other hand thou i wish they show/mention the titles more. what al haymon is doing something that Vince Mcmahon did with wrestling in the 80s
     
  9. CST80

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    I'm talking about primetime cards that mainstream fans actually want to watch and not replays.
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Over-saturation wasn't the problem at all.

    DEATH played a far bigger role.
     
  11. CST80

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    :huh
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a boxer died in the main event on a PBC card earlier this year, and then a guy died on the undercard of the biggest fight ever - Mayweather-Pac fight, and then a boxer died in the main event on the last card of the PBC year ... and people started protesting and calling on Congress to ban boxing ... it would tend to put an end to the big networks' involvement with this.

    That's the kind of stuff that was happening in the early 80s in boxing.

    It wasn't that the ratings weren't there. It wasn't that boxing was on too much. It was that A LOT OF people WERE watching, and guys were dying on a pretty regular basis. And people didn't like turning on the TV and watching guys die.

    That started to weigh on advertisers in particular.

    It wasn't what you were inferring that it was on all the time and people got tired of it.
     
  13. CST80

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    Yeah I know I was a fan Mancini's he was my sister's favorite boxer as well and I assumed that's what you were alluding to, but you kind of vague with your statement and it wasn't necessarily relevant to my post you were responding to. And thankfully those occurrences have dropped off due to the 15 to 12 round change.
     
  14. KO KIDD

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    I like the idea of PBC but only one fight was really anything special