Premier Boxing Champions Will Fail. Why? The Law Of Diminishing Utility Of Course

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Are you starting to gag yet?:think
     
  2. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This takes the prize for the wackiest silly business logic award.

    Christening the sport of boxing as a Marconi and chess event.:patsch

    Guess what. In spite of your proclamation that you like free TV boxing and you hope for more of the same, it's clear that the intention of this thread is to pile hate on the great boxing wizard Al Haymon and his Oz like magical promotion vehicle, PBC.
    Your thread is like a bowl of Mac & Chess made with curdled milk and festered chess. A rotten entrée dressed up in deceptive packaging :yep
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    What an absolutely perfect description of PBC.
     
  4. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :lol: LOL. I really meant Macaroni and CHESS.
     
  5. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymon being the recluse hermit he is makes me think he is up to no good. Why does he hide away so much? People like transparency. Boxing is already the shady sport and this dude Haymon playing the Wizard Of Oz is just ridiculous. Give a fock!ing interview to somebody man! If you and your fighters claim your the great man then show it! Come out from the closet and accept your accolades Mr. Haymon! :D
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wonder how that law applies to number of words in a post ... or number of posts by a poster?

    I kid, I kid.

    You have a good point in there somewhere (and I'm impressed with your knowledge of indy wrestling feds, but I digress) ... but while that theorum/law may "work" as applied to individual units (i.e. the 12th slice of pizza at one sitting might be a chore, whereas the first was a delight), it doesn't necessarily apply across the whole of a commodity.

    Let's take pizza -- when I was growing up there were probably 3 or 4 pizza joints in my town. The size of the town (I moved away and moved back some years later) hasn't quite doubled, while the number of pizza places has increased about 5-fold.

    Having more pizza available hasn't lessened the demand for pizza. I'm quite sure more pizza per person is consumed here.

    There used to be, when I was young (pre-cable), like 2 or 3 baseball games on per week. Now, if you have even basic cable, there are more than a dozen. Yet more people watch baseball than before ... they just don't draw as high a rating for any single game as before.

    So if there were only 10 boxing matches on television per year, there would probably be higher ratings for those per show (and you'd probably only get the most demanded fighters and fights) but boxing itself would, over a very short time, have less and less fans. If there are 100 shows per year, the concentration of people watching each individual show would be lower but the total number of eye***** watching boxing would be greater than if there were only 10.
     
  7. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah, he's the Howard Hughes of boxing, minus the phobias, drugs, weirdness, and inheritance.
    Al Haymon is definitely no parachute, and that's what scares some people. :yep
     
  8. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    I really hope so. Wilder's promoter deserves a permanent exile from boxing.

    After having trash as Wilder vs Gavern on National tv in the U.S. And Wilder vs Johnanas Duphus for the "World Heavyweight Championship" even though that belt is a total peice of garbage, made up side show.

    Wilder has beat 1 fighter, who was maybe top 10-15. Stiverne is overrated as hell Ray Austin ( who Wlad actually beat with one hand in 2 rounds or whatever) was on his way to outpointing Stiverne until he got a late come for behind stoppage.
     
  9. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you have good writing skills, but you have gone way too complicated and forgot that the most simple thing with something succeeding, especially a sport is to give people what they want to see.

    I cant see overdoing good fights as a reason for it not succeeding to be honest. I will never get bored of watching fights between people i want to see fight each other, and i doubt i ever will

    If he can continue to do that i see no reason why it wont succeed. The only thing that can see the concept fail is competition, and poor business decisions.

    Right now i am enjoying whats on offer.
     
  10. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's been pretty good up to this point. Granted, there's been a good amount of mismatches being made as headliners, but it's on free tv and it's supposed to help build the star power of some of these young talented fighters.

    It would be great if they could have the best fight the best more frequently, but that would require at least 6 months of promoting it in order to get the sponsors necessary to fund the event and fighters (if you're talking about a top notch fight where 2 guys are supposed to get 2 or 3 million each.) The lack of long promotions for a fight is the reason why they haven't been able to pair up the best with the best more often. Fighting on free TV is so different than fighting on one of the cable networks. It requires a good amount of diligence from the promoters to "scrounge" up the money required to pay for pitting 2 top tier guys against one another and still make a profit.

    That being said, there's been some really good fights when you factor in it's on free TV:

    Berto-Lopez
    Garcia-Peterson
    Thurman-Guerrero
    Jack-Anthony Dirrell
    Degale-Andre Dirrell
    Khan-Algieri
    Broner-Porter
    Santa Cruz-Mares

    All those fights happened on PBC since March of this year. That's honestly not too shabby for their first 8 months into their inaugural year.

    There's definitely a good amount of garbage fights coming up, but hopefully with getting more sponsors and attempting to promote some of these events like it's a PPV match- giving them 6+ months of promotion to help ascertain the necessary amount of sponsors- they can start putting top tier fights together more frequently. Haymon has more than enough fighters in his stable to put forth some elite fights in the next year or 2.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It's happening....as I predicted.:nod
     
  12. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this thread is re****ed lol....

    NBA has 2460 regular season games per year
    NFL has 512 regular season games per year
    MLB has 4860 regular season games per year
    NHL has 2460 regular season games per year

    none of this nonsense going on in this thread holds any weight
     
  13. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :good Correct.

    The thread is the delusional wishful thinking from a dude whose business experience consists of a lemon-aid stand he ran at age 12 with his mother's guidance (she made the product and counted the .70cents in daily sales), for 2 hours in the front of his home.
    Now he thinks he's experience enough to translate that .70 cents in sales to running a $400M+ international promotion company, without his mommy's guidance. :lol:

    Somebody keep a close watch on this wacko. He just might leap out a window when he sees Haymon and MP's next phase where they bring Schaefer and Mayweather into the fold to complete the task of running GBP and TR totally out of business. :deal
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Was I right? Things haven't been looking too peachy for them lately, no cards scheduled for the last 3 months of 2016, hmmmm.
     
  15. Bad News Brit

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    The thing is, with Haymon dropping the ball on this, means TV companies will avoid touching boxing for another 20 years.