'Pretty Boy' Floyd MAYWEATHER JR. vs. Joel 'El Cepillo' CASAMAYOR @ 135lbs

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  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Floyd would clown Casa.
     
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  2. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damn shame Casa didn't get the decision against Freitas, if he had we might have actually seen this fight @130.
     
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  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Taylor beat Hopkins > Pavlik beat Taylor > Hopkins schooled Pavlik.

    You see how that works? :think Styles make fights.

    Yes, Casa 'went three fights with Corrales', and he won two of them. What does this prove?

    Watch the left hook that put Corrales down in their rematch, and then come back and tell me Casa isn't quick.

    No, being a hypothetical I'm talking about 135 where Floyd fought 4 times (and was fairly unimpressive), including against Castillo, and where Casamayor was the linear champ....
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 20, 2009
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  4. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    I understand styles make matchups. I've been watching boxing since I was 4. But the fact of the matter is Floyd is all wrong for Casa. And I like Casa, don't get me wrong, but he'd get schooled. Casa is a good fighter, even still today he's very good. I think he can win another world title. But you're matching him up with a fighter that has NEVER lost. A fighter that when it comes to technical fundamental boxing ability, nobody in the game today comes close to in skill level.
     
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  5. Ring Master

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  6. Ring Master

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    Santa Cruz!
     
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  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    See, now you're being more reasonable. Fair enough :good

    The only issue I have, is how overrated Floyd is by you and many others. He's a great boxer, one of the best of the era. But he certainly isn't unbeatable, much better fighters than Floyd have lost fights, so the idea that Floyd couldn't possibly lose a fight, is arrogant in the extreme, not to mention totally wrong.

    Personally, I don't think for a second that either man would get schooled. The are both too good technically for that to happen.

    When you look at Floyd's body of work at 135, it's not great. The reality is that he should be 4:1 (with one of those victories being against a nobody).

    I think Casa's speed is very underrated, and he had great movement (before his legs went) so Floyd wouldn't be getting in-and-out to land punches without taking some in return.

    I think Casa would have to fight very tactically, and have an absolutely perfectly prepared and excuted game-plan, but I could see him staying in contention long enough for it to be a split decision either way.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 20, 2009
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  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    That a 38 year old way past it Casa.

    way to prove your point hugger :D
     
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  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Again, do you not understand the meaning of the word 'outboxed'?

    Getting KD'd or KO'd does not equate to getting 'outboxed'.

    'Outboxed' can either mean:

    1. Getting totally dominated in a fight.

    or

    2. A fighter using the outside of the ring to control the fight at range.

    If you think a fight that was even on two cards going into the 11th, or a fight where the outside of the ring is being used equally by both men, is a good example of someone being "outboxed", then you don't know ****. :deal
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 20, 2009
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  10. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    your actually the hugger. Your hugging my nuts right now I feel the warmth, ahhhh

    It was a response to him saying he can't be outboxed. JMM out boxed him. Santa Cruz outboxed him. In his prime vs PBF who knows but to say he can't be outboxed by anyone??? that is real huggery.
     
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  11. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    my man did you see the fight??? JMM adjusted and stared landing rights and uppies, Causing damage which stopped the boxing match, in which he lost the boxing match.

    :lol: your too funny. just stop your trickery of words will not work. You telling me someone can't get outboxed on the inside?
     
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  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    what part of the "Casa was 38 years old" didnt you understand.

    we are talking about Casa in his early days at lightweight not the current version and that version was never clearly beaten.
     
    bladerunner, Jul 20, 2009
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  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I made clear that its perfectly possible for someone to be outboxed on the inside, outboxed often means being totally dominated and outclassed, or occasionally it means working in a specific way from the outside of the ring.

    JMM broke Casa down (a pretty faded version of Casa by the way). The first five rounds of that fight, if anyone was doing the 'outboxing' it was Casamayor. The judged cards reflected that. It was heading for a SD or a draw.

    Saying that JMM outboxed Casamayor is just a totally weak example of someone 'being outboxed', Casamayor has never been outboxed, for any significant period of time, in his entire career.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 20, 2009
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  14. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    :lol: i swear your like an evil villian in a movie. I've never seen someone hate Floyd so strong, for so Long. You are the Greatest Hater by far!

    I don't care how old he is the statement i responded to from another poster was that no one ever outboxes him. Freaking Frietas outboxed him for many rounds.
     
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  15. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Agreed, better fighters than Floyd have lost fights. But those were fighters in different era's. For example, Ray Leonard. Better fighter than Floyd. Taller, Just as quick, bigger puncher, very smart, excellent boxing ability. And Ray was beaten. Ray had tougher opposition in his era than Floyd has in his. If Castillo was to Floyd what Duran was to Leonard, obviously you see the difference there. Castillo couldn't get a win.

    I don't think Casa would get knocked out, or destroyed, but Floyd's combination of hand & foot speed would have given Casa tremendous fits. You would see the difference in boxing ablility. Kinda like when Floyd fought Zab. Zab threw all he had at Floyd and Floyd ended up outclassing him simply based on pure skill. But atleast Zab had the handspeed and power and some height to catch Floyd. Casa is not a big puncher and isn't Casa like 5'5 or 5'6? Somewhere in that area?
     
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