'Pretty Boy' Floyd MAYWEATHER JR. vs. Joel 'El Cepillo' CASAMAYOR @ 135lbs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Jul 20, 2009.


Page 5 of 6
  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

    17,221
    4
    Aug 29, 2008
    It's a good point, and I completely agree. For example, Chavez was, obviously, a better fighter than Casamayor, and Meldrick Taylor (amongst others) outboxed and outclassed him.

    But I'm not really saying 'Casa is too good to be outboxed'. What I'm actually saying is that Casa's too well versed technically, too naturally gifted, too seasoned and accomplished a fighter to be schooled or outboxed by anyone for a significant period of time (the odd round here and there, sure).

    His style just isnt susceptible to that kind of scenario. (Unless he was shot).

    He could be brutalized, he could be beat up. He could be hurt badly and knocked the **** out, but no one is going to school him. Not going to happen.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 21, 2009
    El Cepillo, Jul 21, 2009
    #61
  2. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

    27,672
    1
    Jan 30, 2009
    Opposing TV contracts (HBO & Showtime) I think that rivalry between tv stations has robbed fans of some good fights...You really cant blame either fighter for this fight not happening...Showtime nor HBO doesnt like doing business with each other so the blame should be placed on that not on Mayweather as your post is trying to imply.:-(
     
    Rudyard, Jul 21, 2009
    Rudyard, Jul 21, 2009
    #62
  3. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

    7,712
    0
    Feb 16, 2009
    Yeah, true...I take my comment back.
     
    Kid Cuba, Jul 21, 2009
    Kid Cuba, Jul 21, 2009
    #63
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

    17,221
    4
    Aug 29, 2008
    Floyd didn't stick around at lightweight for very long. His record there wasn't great. And the truth is, Casa isn't the most marketable fighter. Plus Floyd could have had misgivings about fighting someone as awkard stylistically as Casamayor.

    Oh yeah, I just got the HBO/Showtime issues. Sorry, I'm not from the US so that went over my head a little bit.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 21, 2009
    El Cepillo, Jul 21, 2009
    #64
  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

    12,223
    1
    Jul 25, 2004
    Was up El Cepillo

    I think the Zab fight is the worng fight to go off. That was a Welterweight contest where Floyd first showed loss of speed in his fourth weight div. and the big 7 pound jump. I'm not sure Casa has the handspeed, reflexes or power of ZAB. I think the Corley fight is a better fight to look at as far as styles. Zab is a worst style match up for PBF then Casa.

    As far as Floyd having problems for the first 6 rounds...:nono After the fifth round i had it 2-3 rounds for Judah. PBF took over from there. PBF realized that his handspeed was not what Judah's was at 147. So he employs a high guard, times his shots and walks Judah down to almost stopping him before the melay. The adjustment he made was great, The 3rd type of defense i have seen Floyd use. Movement against Corrales(Casa style) Master of the shoulder roll(Toney style) an the High Guard(Winky style)

    You spoke of Floyd's Chin being tested like never before. But at 135 casa doesn't hit as hard as JLC and he tagged Floyd clean and gave Floyd a very tough fight.

    Floyd is too versatile for me to pretend to know what he would do in the ring. He could do like the Corrales fight and bounce all around the ring on Casa ala Frietas, except floyd don't gas . I see the Kid diamond fight and i really don't see how Casa could handle Floyd and beat him. Casa had a problem with Kid D's Straight right hand. Floyd's right would be the best one he has ever seen, with a reach he would not like.
     
    Ring Master, Jul 21, 2009
    Ring Master, Jul 21, 2009
    #65
  6. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

    3,376
    0
    Jun 6, 2009
    Checkin' out your name , You might be a little biased:lol:
     
    Da Chin Chekka, Jul 21, 2009
    Da Chin Chekka, Jul 21, 2009
    #66
  7. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

    3,376
    0
    Jun 6, 2009
    Good point. I can only remember them doing it one time, when Lewis and Tyson fought. Even then they robbed us cause they waited till Tyson was no longer in his prime.
     
    Da Chin Chekka, Jul 21, 2009
    Da Chin Chekka, Jul 21, 2009
    #67
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

    17,221
    4
    Aug 29, 2008
    This content is protected
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    #68
  9. kpete14

    kpete14 Member Full Member

    204
    0
    May 3, 2009
    Floyd would beat Casa on points. I believe it would be a UD, but a close fight..
     
    kpete14, Jul 26, 2009
    kpete14, Jul 26, 2009
    #69
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

    17,221
    4
    Aug 29, 2008
    Wasn't Corrales with Showtime, and FMJ with HBO? :huh
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    #70
  11. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

    6,030
    12
    May 3, 2008
    No, the winner actually earned a multi-million dollar contract from HBO. Both were promoted by Arum. This is when their relationship actually began getting sour. Arum wanted Corrales to KO Floyd, so he could drop him from his promotional company.

    And people wonder why Floyd hates fighting Arum promoted fighters...
     
    smitty_son408, Jul 26, 2009
    smitty_son408, Jul 26, 2009
    #71
  12. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    26,774
    8
    Jul 25, 2008
    Casaymor ducked Mayweather. Casaymor would've got his ass whooped
     
    buckdacious, Jul 26, 2009
    buckdacious, Jul 26, 2009
    #72
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

    17,221
    4
    Aug 29, 2008

    and you base this statement on what exactly? :huh
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    El Cepillo, Jul 26, 2009
    #73
  14. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

    8,397
    0
    Mar 31, 2008
    casa would give him hell, but mayweather would take this fight 90% of the time. just too much raw physical talent.
     
    doubleplaidinum, Jul 26, 2009
    doubleplaidinum, Jul 26, 2009
    #74
  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    26,774
    8
    Jul 25, 2008
    on the contract him and Firetas declined when Arum sent if over. you dont remeber this??
     
    buckdacious, Jul 26, 2009
    buckdacious, Jul 26, 2009
    #75
Page 5 of 6