I've only tuned in to boxing for a few months, so I'm not very knowledgable about the sport, but I'm getting there. Is this the right place to ask some pretty rudimentary or basic questions? If it is, here are my first two. First, I recently watched the Paul Williams/Antonio Margarito fight. To my untrained eye, it seemed like a Williams win. However, when I read about it on this forum, there is always some debate over who actually won the fight. Are the people claiming Margarito won just his blind fans, or can Margarito legitimately claim he won the fight as his reaction after the scores were read shows? And if he did win, what did he do to win the fight? My second question is about the Hopkins/Calzaghe fight. I watched the replay of that fight the morning after the fight, after a good nights sleep, and I found myself close to falling asleep on several occasions. On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being extremely boring, where does that fight rank? Did I just not know what to look for/appreciate in the fight, or was it that boring? Thanks for whoever wants to help educate a new fan.
The Margarito/Williams fight was close in my eyes. You have to look at what's going on in the fight. A lot of Williams punches were hitting Margarito's gloves. I had it a draw but if people had Williams ahead I couldnt complain since it was a close fight. The Calzaghe/Hopkins fight was boring in my eyes because I love action in my fights but if people who enjoy the sweet science will like it more. It really depends on what you like.
I think Williams did beat Margo fair and square in a close fight. I know Margo was unfazed by the shots that he did catch to his grill, and had Paul visibly hurt in the 11th. So it's no surprise he felt the winner that night. I agree with Mex Legend, The Calzaghe/Hopkins fight was a yawn. I prefer action bouts, Now if someone is sweet with science I would appreciate it. But that wasn't the case that night. Cal was sloppy and slappy with it.
You called the Margo-Williams fight correctly...round by round is how you score a fight, and Williams' gameplan was executed throughout. The Margo fans have become much more sure of his "victory" over Williams, because the Cotto performance has renewed their faith and emboldened them to argue a losing position with regards to Williams. As a Hopkins fan, his exciting fights are getting more rare...the last exciting one was Tarver...prior that you have the Oscar DLH fight...and prior to that was the Tito Trinindad fight. You would have to be a fan of B-hop in order to appreciate the fights that I did not mention, that took place in the same timespan.
I thought it was a close, but clear win for Paul Williams. Honestly, I can't see how anyone could've scored it for Margarito. And yes, Bernard Hopkins in recent years has been extremely dull to watch. But with the case of Hopkins, boxing fans don't tune in to watch excitement or action, but rather they tune in to watch how someone in their mid-40's could successfully compete on an elite level in a sport as physically demanding as boxing. Hopkins may not be as fast as he once was, but through clinches (which is boring to watch), well-timed counters, and his ring savvy, Hopkins is able to frustrate his physically superior opponents.
GREAT 2 see a new Boxing fan keep watchin and you'll see before you know it you'll be a full-blown Boxing junkie. P-Will -Margo was a close fight but I hadP-Wil winning . Calz-B-Hop wasn't the most exciting and to a casual fan it could be seen as boring but I enjoyed the skill and the chess match that it was. In closing keep watchin and you'll see why Boxing is the greatest sport going.
answer 1: Williams won the early rounds, then Margo caught up but was just a tad late. It was a pretty close fight, imo, and yes i think Williams won it. The debate is understandable since it was really close, plus added that there are some biased posters here. answer 2: Compared to the lighter weight divisions, the upperweights are just not that exciting...but there are things to appreciate with these types of fights, and those are veteran moves, good and bad tactics, energy preservation...
You guys who are taking this noob seriously are being played. This guy is an experienced poster lookng to stir some **** upatsch
Welcome shockem:good Q1: Watching it live at the time I had Margarito winning it, mostly due to that big drive down the stretch were he had Williams pretty badly hurt. However, having watched it again recently, and scoring it on a round-by-round basis, I have Williams pulling out a close decision. Margarito won some of the later rounds big, but I had Williams pulling out most of the early rounds on his superior workrate, in comparison to what was a very sluggish start by Margarito. Q2: I would score the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight a 6, but take into account that I thought Hopkins-Tarver was a mini-classic. I like a good tear-up just as much as the next man, but I can also appreciate generalship and overall ring-smarts.
I didnt watch the Williams/Margarito fight but as for Calzaghe/Hopkins yes it was a terrible fight and I travelled thousands of miles 2 watch it as well. But you can blame Hopkins for that one as Calzaghe was the only one trying to force the fight while Hopkins tried every dirty trick in the book including feigning injury to steal the win and wanted to hit and hold all night.
1. Williams won in my eyes....... 2. Calzaghe/Hopkins was boring to the non or casual fan,but to the hardcore fans it was ok to watch and see Calzaghe take away Hopkins right hand and out work him,and even though his punches werent crisp it was still cool to watch a little chess match unfold
agreed you have to admit that margo had a pretty poor start and lost many of the early exchanges. then came stronger later on but just to late. i can easily see a williams win(i did to be honest) but if somebody had a draw or a win for margo (as long as it was slim) i have no quams. to the thread starter. you sadly chose to pick a fight which was horribly close. guys with high workrates are hard to judges becuase you dont really know if it's the amount of work that should win the round or the more precise more damaging shots. did you see the margarito-cotto many on here were impressed by cotto's footwork and counterpunching. while others were impressed by antonio's ranged shots and combinations. judging is a unperfected art.
It was a very close fight but I had Paul pulling it out .He was busier in the earlier rds and did enough to get the nod ..Margarito had his moments but just didn't macth Paul's level of activity..