Primary sources and opinions of ones peers..

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  1. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Same chick.

    :lol:
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    It probably was defensible in 1970.

    There had been no Frazier trilogy, No Foreman fight, it was verry questionable where Ali would end up in the grand scheme of things.

    Then again, given the acuracy of Tunneys prediction for the fight of the century, perhaps Willard does better than we think.
     
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  6. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    By 1970, Muhammad Ali had already achieved, and proved far more than Jess Willard ever did. You always look to give the benefit of the doubt to the older fighter, I know, but come on. Be objective. Do you genuinely feel that Willard would cause Ali any difficulties? A past prime, size disadvantaged Jack Johnson soundly outboxed him.
     
    manbearpig, Dec 29, 2011
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  7. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Why did you avoid my question, Janitor?
     
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  8. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    for a long time all i did was watch film, then i started reading this site to get new people to watch, along the way i realised context is way too important, especially with a lack of footage. i used to laugh at willard against dempsey but history, not film shows willard wasn't as useless as film shows, and then i see more in jack too.
    also this site has people who saw this stuff first hand, and that is one hell of a resource to ignore.
    the age bias will be dependent on person, but today the talent pool is so small any young person can't say/think anything like that so i don't really know.
    so I wont offer any opinion on someone there is no film of, but film aint everything, even with a today fighter.
     
    kingfisher3, Feb 12, 2012
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I forgot about how mental things were going there for a little while on here.
     
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  10. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Put my man on the spot. :lol:
     
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  11. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    He has still avoided it.


    Also, get it round you Pachilles. I've been going on about the weaknesses in using other people's opinions since before you even started your 'Duran deserves a mention' quip.
     
    manbearpig, Jun 20, 2012
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  12. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    holy ****, i think tunney could have beat willard. remember this quote is from a great fighter but also someone who never faced a black fighter.
     
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  13. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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  14. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Dempsey-Firpo of ESB threads. Short, explosive, controversial.
     
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  15. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    It's a good thread for a trolling Pachilleslite
     
    manbearpig, Jun 20, 2012
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