Prime-4-Prime, "Smokin" Joe Fraiser vs Wladimar Klitschko, who wins?

atsch..what a turd

 

oh myatschatsch

 

The problem is, Wlad isn't great like Frazier was. Not even close. You can't use "great" in the case of both men. Frazier was a much better fighter than Wlad currently is, so the question really is, "does a great small man beat a good big man?" and I think the answer is "yes".

Lets not forget, Corrie Sanders smashed Wlad to pieces and he wasn't much bigger than Frazier. If you cut the excess fat off him, he's maybe 5-10lbs heavier. Hardly huge, is it?

 

I really doubt Frazier could handle Wlad or Vitali. He is just too small and too light. If Frazier was in his prime today .... he proberbly wouldnt even touch the heavyweight division, he'd be a cruiserweight. As much as I hate to say it ..... both K-brothers would KO him.

Past-era-fighters like Holmes and Ali would be much more suited to beating the K-brothers. Holmes and Ali could outbox and out jab both K-brothers ... Frazier had no chance of doing that. Obviously youd have to give Frazier a chance due to Wlad's past losses to lesser fighters ...... but other than a one-punch knockout, I cant see Frazier doing anything against either robot-brother.

To be honest, I would not put Frazier in the top 10 or 15 all time great heavyweights. Only 4 successfull defences and slaughtered by Forman (twice). A great man and a great fighter but not a top 10 ATG heavyweight.

 

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This tough, but I think Joe could of pulled it off. His up and down head movement would of been just the thing to get around Klits long jab.

 

I doubt he could do that mate ..... Wlad would just clinch him once he got past the jab just like Wlad always boringly does ...... and being so much bigger and stronger what could Frazier do?

 

This is why Frazier beats Wlad.

Frazier is the best body puncher in heavyweight history. Ali liked to clinch, which left his body open and thats where Frazier had a lot of success. Frazier would likely get clinched by Wlad, wriggle about a bit, create himself a bit of space and rip him to the body. As a very short, compact body puncher, Frazier would have absolutely no trouble landing and after a few clinches, Wlad would simply stop doing it because it'd be hurting him too much.

The clinch doesn't benefit Wlad, it benefits Frazier.

Frazier breaks Wlad down to the body, takes away his defence and stops him in around 4 rounds.

 

I know a lot of you are Wlad fans but this is getting silly. I'm sure Wlad himself would be the first to admit he would have no hope of beating Frazier.

 

I picked Frazier by body shots in the VS Vitali thread since Vitali likes to fight and come forward, but I gotta go with Wlad here.

Wlads distance game is almost perfected, and I don't know how easily Joe could get to the inside. Once there he would inflict damage until Wlad layed all of his weight on him.

The real question is how much damage can Wlad inflict while Joe is trying to close the distance. If Joe can minimalize it, then I would choose Joe. But I haven't seen anyone do that lately.

And yes, not a single one of these guys even deserve to be mentioned along side Frazier, but that doesn't mean Wlad hasn't mastered his style now.

 

Frazier would make it an inside fight, and Wlad hates that. Ali didn't have the footwork to keep Frazier at bay, so we can be sure that Wlad would be on ***** street within the first 2 rounds.

 

And guys, please don't bring up the Foreman-Frazier fight, where Frazier weighed 10 pounds more than in the Ali fight. Frazier thought Ali was the last credible opponent out there, and stopped training seriously after he beat him.

 

Are you trying to say he didnt hurt Wlad bad in the 3rd or 4th and the 12th?
He went for it twice, with success.
Frazier would smash Wlad to bits.

 

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