Prime Archie Moore vs Jerry Quarry

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  1. Ali Holmes

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    Both show up in top fighting condition in their respective primes. Who takes home the win?
     
  2. Bah Lance

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    Quarry has a shot against anyone he can outbox...he couldn't even dream of outboxing Moore. Quarry would gas out here trying.

    It's a question if Moore takes this on points or pushes for a late stoppage against a tired Quarry.
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

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    Moore is all wrong for Jerry. Think Moore wins a wide decision.
     
  4. 70sFan865

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    Moore would make him look like a fool and stop him late.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

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    Moore might be the favorite but I wouldn't write Quarry off quickly
     
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  6. Balder

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    Quarry stops Moore.
     
  7. Ali Holmes

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    Or perhaps Moore stops Quarry
     
  8. Rollin

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    Beautiful fight, that's certain, but Archie Moore was such a technical giant with punching power and incredible discipline as well.
     
  9. Balder

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    Perhaps, But Moore is up against a bigger boxer puncher, with more power and size. Quarry was faster as well.

    Both are terrific counter punchers, and Moore is better defensively.

    Moore might put Quarry down once, but not out. The speed and power are to much over time. Quarry eats him up from the outside and when Moore opens up so does Quarry. Moore is spectacular at timing and has very good power so he will hurt Quarry.

    But in the end, Moore is past his best at Heavyweight and cannot hang with Quarry past 9. That said, Moore, if he fights smart, can tire Quarry out if he accepts losing on points for the first 8 rounds. He could catch a tired Quarry and KO him. I would not put that strategy past the " ole Mongoose". I just do not think he respects Quarry enough to make that plan in advance.

    Quarry by KO in 9 - and I like the odds at 65 / 35
     
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  10. mr. magoo

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    I think Moore’s fighting style and superior skill would win this for him. It would probably be a tough fight though
     
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  11. Bah Lance

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    Quarry 6'0" 192-202 lbs 72"
    Moore 5'11" 188-197 lbs 75"

    Their height and weight is actually negligible at HW peak years. Though Moore has a significant reach which would come into play more than Quarry's slight listed height advantage.

    I wouldn't rate Quarry as stronger. Moore is considerably better known for his punching power, even above 175 he was a noted banger with a right hand that could drop anyone.

    Quarry is quicker, but really not by all that much and he always slowed down after fast starts while Moore stayed steady.


    That said your assessment reads strange to me. It's as if in this scenario you are billing a guy with no real size advantage or noted power in Quarry as Mike Tyson like, being vastly bigger, faster, and stronger...Moore being forced to bottle it in hopes Quarry will fatigue..that's absolutely absurd. Moore didn't even fight that way against Marciano...who I don't buy Quarry being remotely as strong or well conditioned as.

    Quarry matching Marciano's stoppage of Moore...that is putting a lot of faith in a guy not known as a killer aggressive puncher. Are you suggesting Ellis, Spencer, and past Machen are better boxers than Moore? They aren't even really bigger than him...
     
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  12. Balder

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    No, I just believe speed is an advantage. Although not as great as Marciano - Quarry is a better boxer, is faster, and a better counter puncher. Moore slipped and rolled against Marciano, he would be facing a guy that gets his punches off faster , with solid combos and more speed. Basically meaning Moore might catch more shots against Quarry than Marciano, which in turn adds into more punches landing over 9 rounds.

    Granted, Quarry runs out of gas significantly faster than Marciano, so the question is to me if Quarry can land more than Marciano over 9 rounds. To me this is an accumulation damage fight, and Moore gets hit cleaner and faster than what even Marciano did to him. Same result.

    But, Moore was never going to stop Marciano. I give Moore a solid chance to beat Quarry because of skill and endurance, but I do not favor him.
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

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    Quarry is not faster then prime Moore. Moore also had a longer reach by 3 inches and was only shorter by an inch. Size wouldn’t matter at all in this one. Moore has one of the best heavyweight records all time. Wouldn’t say he was past his best but at his best during that stretch. Going like 64-4 and only losing to the likes of Marciano Patterson and Ali past the age of 38.
     
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    Moore is damn near invincible against men his own size. Quarry is such a man.

    If Quarry had actually beat Machen or Ellis...I could see him having a shot.
     
  15. Ali Holmes

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    Some try to say Moore was "just a light heavyweight" to belittle Marciano in a round about way. However, Moore was a very good heavyweight, beating many top heavies and only losing to the cream of the crop. He was nearly 50 when he lost to Ali, so that loss kind of doesn't count. Moore said he took that fight to finish paying off his house.
     
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