Prime Artur Beterbiev vs 35 year old Larry Holmes

ShortRound,

I couldn’t care less about 3 round amateur fights.

Officially, Lennox Lewis knocked out Riddick Bowe.

Did you see the knockout?

It wasn’t a knockout.

In amateur boxing, many of the knockouts aren’t knockouts.


None of it is relevant.

Larry faced big punchers in a 20 year career.


You also needed the style and the opportunity to knock out Larry.

You say that lesser fighters than Beterbiev knocked Larry down.

Well, Henry Cooper knocked down Ali, yet better guys like Foreman weren’t able to.

It all depends on how you match up on the night.


Beterbiev isn’t tall, and he doesn’t have a big reach.

He’s also not fast and is quite static.

He’s easy enough to hit.

So although he has great attributes at LHW, he doesn’t possess enough where he’d have been given a decent chance of beating Larry Holmes at HW.

Larry’s jab and all-round skills would have been very problematic for Beterbiev.

Yes, he’s a great fighter.

However, he’s only had 18 pro fights at LHW, where as yet, there is no evidence that he can become a credible professional HW.

We have our EYES to gauge speed as well as a ton of evidence.

Again, I don’t care about amateur fights.

So what if Beterbiev pushed Usyk hard in an an amateur fight, that lasts what?

Three rounds?

A 9 min fight?


Beterbiev doesn’t have more tools in his arsenal than Mike.


Mike had blistering hand speed.

He threw great combinations to the head and body.

He had great upper body and head movement.

He could switch hit.

He was explosive.

He had huge power in either hand, and had a great uppercut.

He was much harder to hit.

He had much faster feet, where he could close distance fast.


Beterbiev isn’t even comparable to Mike Tyson as an offensive threat.

You are talking complete and utter nonsense.


A fight against Beterbiev, would have been a completely different opponent for Larry.

A completely different stylistic match up for him.

Also, we’ve not even seen Beterbiev fight at HW as a professional.

I don’t care if Beterbiev had 1000 amateur fights.

Beterbiev has only had 18 fights at LHW as a professional.

When Mike fought Larry, he’d had 32 fights at HW as a professional.

Two completely different things.

 

You’re using a 3 round amateur fight to predict the outcome of a 18 fight LHW vs one of the greatest HW’s of all time.

 

Spinks’ size, attributes and style was more suited to fight Holmes.

You are the only moron here.

Comparing an 18 fight LHW to Mike Tyson.

It’s really great to have you here, sharing your great wisdom with us.

Ha!


I’ve never said that Beterbiev was a caveman.

I never said that he had no explosiveness at all, only in comparison to Mike.

He has great attributes and is doing very well.

Last night was very impressive.

However, he’s never fought at HW as a pro, and his style isn’t a style where you’d have favoured him over Holmes, or where you’d even have given him a great chance.


Yes, not many people have had great success against him with their jabs.

However, none of his opponents are elite level HW’s like Holmes, who’s considered by almost everybody to be a top 10 ATG HW.


Go and look up the word: CONTEXT.

 

They both lose to Jake Paul

 

Did you see Beterbiev's stoppage of Dorticos? It is perhaps the worst in history.

 

Again, Spinks had a better style, and he PROVED his worth against Holmes, with very CONTROVERSIAL decisions.


Again, I don’t care what Beterbiev did as an amateur.

Until he moves up and fights a credible HW as a professional, he’s still unproven.


Boxing has progressed from its roots.

However, there is no CONTINUAL progression you ignoramus.

There’s a number of whole divisions today which are nowhere near as good-great as they were years ago. And not just in terms of depth, but in terms of ability too.

There’s many fighters and many divisions back then, which were superior than what we see today.

The sport doesn’t keep progressing.

It just ebbs and flows, like it’s done for years.

Boxing is a stand alone sport that plateaued a long time ago.


Oh no!

Please don’t block me.

I need some more of your incredible knowledge imparted on me.

 

Beterbiev actually has very good movement, what a stupid point.

 

When he was a kid.

 

He should be banned, he doesn't even deny the fact that he's NEETzchean.

 

You're right, im just stating that amateur results aren't always relevant to pro fights

 

For a LHW.

Not in a fight against Mike at HW.

 

He’s blocked me because I’ve upset him.

Ha!

I’m now inconsolable.

 

He`s a come forward fighter, no way is he going to beat a heavyweight coming forwards, Spinks moved more and old Larry`s legs couldn`t keep up.

 

Tyson would have destroyed Beterbiev at cruiserweight ans was better in every department you idiot, Tyson was amazing.