Prime Bruno v Ortiz of today who would have won?

Sure it's possible. Just as DW getting Ko'd is as well. Between the two, Morrison was a better boxer. And he had a punch! But his aggression COULD lead to him being ion the wrong place at the wrong time w/ DW, that I can concede.

If you think McCall was awful, that's all you. But his win over Lewis trump's ANYTHING DW has done as a pro so far.

And the irony of resorting to Larry freakin Holmes, and ATG HW, as some example. PM me when DW reaches Holmes' status.

 

Since when is Ortiz this monster here? For ****'s sake... you and RichP post about Bruno being overrated... and then pick Lius Ortiz to wipe him out? Saying Ortiz wins based on a fighter being overrated says exactly NOTHING.

 

Are we really debating second tier guys? Who cares. Neither is close to best of his era although you could make a stronger argument for Bruno being an better overall fighter. Both were pretty good and, in fairness, I watched more of Bruno’s career over the years than Ortiz. Are we trying to make more of Wilders recent win? Ortiz looked pretty darn good for an old man. 40 for a HW is pushing the envelope. His best days are definitely far behind him.

 

Ant man you tool. Take your well known hatred of Bruno back to classic. Don’t come here and take your cheap shots at him here as well.

 

I never said Ortiz wipes him out. Bruno is overrated that's my opinion. Ortiz gets sold short here. I mean you have to be pretth damn good to compete atathe top level when you are a 60 year old heart patient right? Relax man

 

That's right... you just say he's overrated and leave it at that. Never mind the fact that you are looking at two completely different eras.

 

No, I said he's overrated because his offensive arsenal was limited, he had bad defense and a very shaky chin and didn't accomplish very much. Combine those things with my own personal opinion based on what I viewed with my own eyes is how I came to my own personal opinion that he's over rated around here. What's your problem with that? FYI, I was alive to watch both erad first hand. Not sure what your implying by highlighting their careers took place at different points in time

 

Different eras Brainiac.. Bruno fought in what's regarded as the last great era of HW boxing. Lius fights in what is seen as the worst, historically.

You are entitled you have an opinion RichP... Just pointing out the silly way you seem to come to those opinions. Usually based off gross ignorance or crying about what fans said..

 

Jesus man. You seriously can't handle others opinions. I don't need you telling me about eras I've been watching the sport a long time. I have my opinions and I base them off what I see and no. I don't need you to validate them

 

I handle thought out opinions very well, even in disagreement. Hell, I even change my mind based on the strength of them. Although, those usually come from guys who know their stuff. You operate more as sarcastic troll here. We both know it. That's on me for any engagement.

 

That's the point Mark if Lewis did not box well against Bruno what's Ortiz going to do?

 

I have a feeling it's because, "Lewis didn't box due to his own faults..." Not because of anything Bruno did.