Prime Buster Douglas v Prime Lennox Lewis

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  1. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Lewis was troubled by a good jab, yet never beaten by some one who focused on it. The problem is that the jab leaves the jabber very open to the right hand , Lewis had one helluva right hand.
    The biggest problem Douglas would bring to the table is his movement which could trouble Lewis. I still see Lewis winning this and think it could be a mid round KO or a UD depending on his aggression.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    lewis wins this IMO
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I suppose it could go either way, but I watched Lewis through out his career and even bet on his a couple times and you can say what you want about the man, but generally speaking he usually found a way to win fights, especially against big guys. And I suspect he'd to the same here.

    The interesting part about Lewis is when he was younger he was so much faster than he was when his career ended, his natural athletic skills tend to get very under-rated, but of course he was less polished in his youth.

    But to me Lewis won a fair number of fights due to the strategy the used against different fighters as much as anything. If they felt the guy was dangerous, then tended to go right at him and made sure the fighter couldn't get in a rhythm. I suspect the fight would fold more along those lines than was the case between Douglas and Tyson.
     
  4. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Douglas of the Tyson fight could see the distance and give Lewis a hard night. Any other Douglas is stretched within 8.
    I wonder what LL thread we will have next from his biggest nuthugger?
     
  5. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I voted "Lewis KO", but now i think a decision is a more likely outcome. Buster does not have a reputation for being a puncher, so instead of rushing for the KO like Lewis did against superheavy punchers Golota, Grant & Briggs, he instead starts slowly, opting to "feel out" his opponent tactically. After studying Buster's previous bouts with Ferguson, Page, Tucker, Berbick & McCall, the sheer brilliance of the fast lateral movement & fluidity of combinations of Douglas in this absolute Peak inspired form comes as a surprise to Lennox. He loses the first 3 rounds, confused by the much quicker movement of his foe, & eating many more jabs than he lands, aswell as a few sharp combinations, but he survives these as he did early against Vitali.

    Emanuel tells Lewis he needs to get his act together & start winning rounds big. Lewis makes use of his tremendous strength to do lots of clinching & mauling to win a decision in an ugly fight. At times Buster makes it competitive with elusive footwork & superb jab, but he only wins two more rounds. I think Lewis would use the same vicious kidney shots in the clinches that he used to take away the legs of Vitali. These bombs to the body would slow Douglas down, but he was supremely conditioned, so by the time he is gassing late, i see Lewis tiring & dropping his hands too, thus it goes the distance.

    Lennox Lewis UD (7-5) Buster Douglas.
     
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  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Lewis could be out boxed, the boxer Douglas was in Tokyo would outbox Lewis pretty easily. How would douglas get on in a clinch with lewis though? Hes not throwing lewis off and nailing him like he did with Tyson. Lennox was as strong as foreman.

    Douglas was a skilled boxer when he applied himself, he was better than McCall and rahman but not quite the one punch hitter of either. To beat Lewis you had to outwork him and force a pace that didn’t suit him like Zeljko Mavrovic attempted but was outstrengthed.

    on the occasions Lewis was getting outboxed he would use his massive strength and be quite physical- Lennox was very strong and rough when he wanted to be and this he would use on buster.

    the fact that buster was only great for one fight means Lewis would have to start as favourite but the fact is Lewis never beat a fighter as good as Douglas was that night so you have to give big bus a great chance.
     
  7. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    Nonsense :patsch

    It is like saying that Leon Spinks was better than Patterson or Liston beacuse he beat Ali; a better opponent than they ever did.

    Tokio Tyson was just a shadow of his former self that night. Not taking anything away from Douglas, but that version of Tyson got into the ring already half beaten.
     
  8. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Tyson at that stage was maybe a better fighter and less washed up then the Holyfield Lewis faced. Douglas also won every round besides the round he was knocked down in the Tyson fight.
     
  9. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson has even admitted that the main problem was just that Douglas was very good.
     
  10. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Larry King wanted to know what was wrong with Tyson that night. Tyson said the main problem was Douglas. The interview took place last year.

    I don't think Tyson was at his peak I have heard lots about his problems leading up to the fight. I think he may have been better then the Holyfield Lewis beat though.
     
  11. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was still in his early 20s and a beast of a fighter I don't think he was an easy fight. Went on to do good after the Douglas fight even though he went to jail.

    I have watched the Berbick and Williams fights also and he was a very gifted fighter I think. He did not have Lennox's long and consistant career. But that should not matter much in a prime vs prime fight.
     
  12. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Great post & footage of Tyson sparring with Past-Prime Greg Page, i see he was tagged by a few flush shots before being dropped too. Here is an article from before the fight, regarding Tyson's stuggles in sparring with Past-Prime Trevor Berbick too:

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...2023249_1_tyson-trevor-berbick-buster-douglas
     
  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Exactly. :good

    Berbick was 35 years old in '90 when Tyson sparred with him for this fight. Whereas the WBC champion Berbick had just turned 32 when Tyson obliterated him in '86 in devastating fashion.
     
  14. Seamus

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    The agendized Lewis bashing is tedious, historically inaccurate and intellectually dishonest. Sorry he ****ed your sister...
     
  15. Big Red

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    I don't think that consistancy has anything to do with how good a fighter could fight when motivated. I think the same thing applies to all different sorts of disciplines. You have people who produce consistantly over a long period of time and you have others who don't produce as consistantly but what they do produce is greater. I think Douglas win over Tyson is far greater fight then any Lennox Lewis fight ever.