Prime Calzaghe VS Prime Roy Jones, Who Wins?

Can someone tell us when Calzaghe was in his prime? I don't think using the Kessler fight works, because Joe was past it. Proves his greatness and durability, but we're talking prime to prime here. This fight becomes almost irrelevent.

I took Jones on points. I mean, look at Jones in his prime--not his mid-thirties.

 

Would it be Lacy? Joe totally outclassed Lacy, but outclassing Lacy isn't outclassing the likes of Hopkins or Tarver.

I would give Joe a shot, depending on the day, but in the end prime Jones is a freak of nature.

 

Modified last post to better illustrate Jones' glass jaw.

 

The reason Jones' pathetic performance against Johnson was brought up was because someone tried to take Joe's outing against Kessler as indicative of what he would have done against Roy.

I believe I have decisively shown that Joe at 35 >>>> Roy at 35.

Look, nuthugging is fine. Just try to remember the facts. If Joe was buzzed at 35 by a beast in Kessler, Jones was OBLITERATED by both Tarver and Johnson.

And Joe still won his fight, and wasn't knocked down, or, for that matter, TFO.

I respect Roy -- which is why I say he would take 5/10. But people just dismiss Joe, and it's nonsense.

 

wales is maybe the size of one of americas states so lets not compare wales and america in terms of how they can potentially increase repuations, and u can say what u want about the welsh its stil a welshman who is ****in over every fighter that steps in the ring with him, i stil think calzaghe has better speed than glass jawed joke jones junior, if hopkins never needed 4 rounds 2 adust what happened in the beginning half of both taylor fights seemingly he could not adjust enough 2 impress the judges, did jones jr ever fight someone who could potentially match him in handspeed, outdo him in skill and workrate, jones jr would not have knocked calzaghe out in fact if anyone hits the canvas it would have been jones jr. jones jr pushed his luck he relied on his reflexes but when youve got a someone like calzaghe who could out pressure on constantly with pure hand speed, and land well over a 1000 punches in a fight, tko calaghe around 9 imo if not calzaghe on points. calzaghe was at his prime around the lacy fight, without all the broken hands we could have seen a good few more fights on his resume and then people would believe calzaghe would beat jones jr, before anyone has a pop im not taking away from jones jr i think he was a truly amazing fighter and the fight would be close i just believe calzaghe had the skills to defeat prime jones jr.

 

Calzaghe would lose 10 out 10 times against a prime Jones :yep

 

Oh sorry, I must've got the wrong thread, y'see I thought the title said PRIME Roy Jones versus PRIME Joe Calzaghe, not 35 YEAR OLD Jones versus 35 YEAR OLD Joe Calzaghe. Oh yeah, that fight Joe could win, I agree entirely. Jones was never the same after the Ruiz fight, dont know why, could be age, could be the reflexes going, could be losing the weight, all I know is that Jones was SHOT at 35, not prime. End of argument.

I find some of your idea's puzzling. Calzaghe faster than Jones Jnr? I think not. If jones fought someone as fast as Calzaghe, well ok Calzaghe is fast, but he's not that fast, your getting carried away. Power wise, **** Jones is totally out of Calzaghe's league. Jones had power all the way up to heavyweight, its arguable wether or not Calzaghe has much power at all. Calzaghe the superior fighter? Calm down sir, your going to have an aneurysm, Roy Jones Jnr is pretty clearly the most complete fighter of the last 20 years. All time greats, he's up there with Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Hagler, Hearns, all of 'em. Top 10, maybe even top 5, and possibly the most naturally gifted boxer who's ever lived. Go on, start a thread and say that about Calzaghe, lets see it get shot down in flames.

Calzaghe could've put as much presssure on Jones as he wanted, Jones in his prime was so fast that he'd have dodged his way out of trouble. Calzaghe might throw 1,000 punches, let see how many of them land. Prime Jones never got hit, and his jaw only went after the Tarver fight. Some fighters age better than others, Lennox Lewis was older than Tyson when they fought each other, you gonna tell me that Lewis was more shot than Tyson?

Calzaghe is good, but he doesn't hit as hard, as fast, as accurately or as powerfully as Jones did in his prime. No boxer does. Roy Jones Jnr in his prime is probably the closest thing to unbeatable that boxing has ever known. No-body outdoes him in skill. The only fighter I can think of who had the same level of skill as Jones is maybe Ray Robinson, and that was a whole different era.

If Roy goes to war with Calzaghe he makes it harder for himself, but he still wins, coz Calzaghe's chin may be hard but Roy Jones hits harder. Calzaghe isn't anything like as fast as Roy. If Mikkel Kessler can get to him, Roy Jones can too. And Roy hits harder than Kessler. How many heavyweight champions has Calzaghe staggered? Oh I know John Ruiz was ****, but excluding the Tua fight, his chin seemed pretty solid to me. yeah go on point out the Tua fight, put up the video that I've never seen, Tua was a wrecking ball a total aberration. John Ruiz got hurt by Roy Jones Jnr. Trust me, if Roy wanted too, he could KO Calzaghe. I imagine that Roy just puts a clinic on him instead. Showboating, bolo punches, hands by his waist, behind his back, yeah Roy Jones wins.

 

Calzaghe is no truck driver or security guard.

 

Ok I retract that, instead of clinic how about whitewash? 12 rounds to nuthin? thats if Joe can last 12 without being starched.

 

Jones walked into that straight left thus multiplying the force of impact. The only thing that was different was Tarver waiting for Jones to loop the lefthook and leave himself wide open. As to whether Calzaghe would have studied Jones's style and exploited one of his flaws is debatable.

 

Roy Jones (117-111)

 

roy jones all day

 

Firstly consider the fact that Griffin was actually a world-class boxer (he has two close decisions over a prime James Toney and was outlanding Roy according to Compubox over 9 rounds in their first meeting).

Now take a look at the other side of the coin: Jones had trouble with Griffin and was floored by Del Valle, but Joe had trouble with Robin Ried and was floored by Salem. Neither of these guys touches a prime Jones.

Joe said prior to the Kessler fight "I've never taken a backward step prior to this fight and I'm not going to start now". An admirable show of courage, however it rings true: Calzaghe likes to take centre ring and push the pace in every fight. Doing this against Roy Jones meant certain defeat. Jones would stop Calzaghe at 168 lbs in dramatic fashion.

 

Calzaghe is a future hall of famer, no doubt, but Jones is probably the best fighter of the last 25 years, certainly the most naturally gifted, and should be in everyone's top 25 all time list. Jones wins 7 out of 10 for me. Could you imagine a prime Jones being run close by Reid????

 

add cop and sanitation worker to the list cap:yep.