Prime Canelo vs Prime Floyd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Diddy, Dec 19, 2020.


Who wins?

  1. Floyd

    26 vote(s)
    70.3%
  2. Canelo

    11 vote(s)
    29.7%
  1. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Andre Ward needs to fight Canelo.
     
  2. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As much as I hate Floyd's style he was an elite level boxer. He always grifted and stacked the chips in his favour though and the philly shell can be exposed by taller fighters and we will never know if he had that true grit and versatility. To casuals he is a king though so I guess whatever?
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Did you guys not see how gaunt and frail Canelo looked at the weigh in for their fight after Floyd killed him with the catchweight? He looked like a ginger zombie. He was so weakened by getting down to the weight he instinctively reached for a chair and plonked his freckled ass down at the weigh in and he stayed plonked down on it for ages. I don't recall ever seeing a fighter do that.

    He was only eating half a saucer full of rabbit food a day during that camp if that. He barely had any energy at all throughout it. Respected boxing trainer James Gogue said he was absolutely shocked by Canelo's lazy attitude to training when he visited his gym.

    Gogue spent 10 days in camp with Canelo before the Floyd fight

    I found an interview where he talks about it

    5:07 and the full interview with Gogue is at the 1:21:46 mark

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/wcsteel...a-weekend-wrap

    Even my boy Dre was seriously concerned about how drained Canelo was when he saw how weak and feeble he looked at the weigh in

    1:20

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    ''Canelo didn't look good yesterday''

    ''Problem is Floyd doesn't get tired and we've seen Canelo fade in fights before.. Having to take off that extra two pounds is.. people think it's just two pounds but when you already struggling to make 154 that extra two pounds is a lot. He [Canelo] is going to put on a lot of weight but he's not going to be able to put on the right kind of weight in just 24 hours. So he's gonna feel the fact that he's, you know, stripped his body, cutting his muscles to get to 152.''

    And guess who agrees about catchweights weakening opponents??

    “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.”

    "I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills.... Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses"

    "De La Hoya - Pacquiao fights him at a catchweight. Cotto - he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya I said 'give him to me at 154'. With Cotto - 'give him to me at 154'. Give me the guys where they are comfortable with their weight so there are no excuses"

    ''I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter. He faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catchweight. It wasn’t the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained; he wasn’t hydrated. Antonio Margarito was a guy who was cheating. I want him [Cotto] to be comfortable, to feel good when we meet to go into battle. I don’t want no excuses. So I’m going to go in there and be Floyd Mayweather. I’ve been there before and I know what it takes.”

    ---Floyd ''Money'' Mayweather

    Ad guess who else does

    'Ellberbe commented on Pacquiao’s catchweight win over Cotto in 2009, saying to ***** “He [Cotto] was a dead man walking when he went into the ring. The casual fan doesn’t know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight.”

    "That's one thing Floyd make perfectly clear to us," Ellerbe said. "He didn't want to fight him at a catchweight, he wanted to fight him at the weight. Sometimes, you don't get full credit when you fight at a catchweight. Floyd wanted to make sure Miguel was comfortable."

    A healthy hydrated Clenelo at 154 or Clenelo Weight stops Floyd and if you think Floyd would stand a goddamn chance in hell against the 160-175 ginger Mexican version of The Thing roid monster who can punch through castle walls you're out of your goddamn mind. Clen would take his head clean off with one of those hooks.
     
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  4. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Saunders; but he also seems fat and largely disinterested these days, so it's a fairly routine night's work for Canelo.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    If you're talking about Canelo today, then you are talking about a 160-68lb fighter. Floyd would look like a breadstick next to him and Canelo would cave his head in. Ginger has not only become a better boxer but he's also become a small version of the Hulk. There's no comparison with the version of Canelo that Floyd fought.
     
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  6. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The poll in hand clearly stipulates at 154. I mean no sh*t Canelo would probably beat Floyd’s ass at 168.
     
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  8. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You are being incredibly deceptive here. You have clearly researched this well enough to provide multiple quotes but have missed out thee most important quote and detail.

    It was Team Canelo, who not only publicly called for the fight first, but also offered the catch-weight of 152. This was all of their own actions. They called Floyd Mayweather Jr. out and stated they were willing to do it at 152. Floyd didn't say **** but accept what was put in front of him.

    You also didn't mention that around that time Canelo was weighing in on or even below 152.
     
  9. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont understand why people are saying Plant would beat Canelo, he has never beaten anyone anywhere near as good as Canelo.
     
  10. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That would be a good fight.
     
  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd was 36 years old and past his prime when he defeated a 23 years old Canelo.
     
  12. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    It'd be a piece of cake for Ward.
     
  13. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Canelo is clearly light years beyond the fighter that fought Floyd for many moons ago..... anyone with half a brain can figure that out.
     
  14. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Cotto was in monster shape. Not drained. He looked lean and fit as an ox.
     
  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont understand why people try to use that logic to predict fights.

    The first two stages of almost every fighters career is built upon beating progressively better opponents. Every couple fights they beat opponents who are better than anyone else theyd fought before.

    Fury hadnt beaten anyone near as good as Wlad, before they fought.
    Ward hadnt beaten anyone near as good as Kessler, before they fought.
    Lopez hadnt fought anyone near as good as Loma, before they fought.

    Ect ect ect ect. The list goes on and on and on.

    Gauging fights by who someone has fought up til now is a poor way to assess a fight.