Prime David Haye vs Povetkin who would have won?

not much between them at HW, except Haye was able to win a title at HW, Pov's upper level was 2nd tier.

On the other hand, Pov was able to narrowly outmatch a better CW (the elite Huck) than Haye managed.

PSO i dunno, even stevens maybe with haye just slightly better H2H with that win over Value.

H2H Haye maybe nips it unless he gets koed midrounds.

But thats might be against PEDvetkin not clean Pov.


Too many variables to make a clean judgement.

 

Still dosnt change the point that any of these guys -who relied on reflexes- never had to exchange blows until their reflexes slowed down.

 

Saying Haye had a bad chin is pure speculation. It's a fact the only time he got stopped was in his last pro fight, years removed from his prime and after a massive stint out of the ring, as well as in his 10th pro fight against a former world champion, where he exerted all of his energy in trying to finish his opponent.

It's also a fact that his chin wasn't tested all that often and his reflexes where good enough for him not to get tagged throughout his prime years, but we don't have that much to go off here apart from inferences and speculation.

 

Haye would win a UD..

 

So the heavyweight fraud of the decade, David Haye vs the Russian Dough Boy .......I never understood the hype around Povetkin, on the juice or not, he beat some shot has beens, gets lit up by cream puff Chambers and gets thrown around like a Rag Doll glass chinned WK...hides in Russia......so whats his best win, going life and death with Huck or blasting cannon fodder Takam ?

Hayes faces similar comp while going rounds and rounds with complete washed up fighters, barely got by the Missing Link and then went for a track meet with WK.

Conclusion : Haye is dead afraid to engage and runs,like his mouth pre fight, literally and Povetkin wins a boring decision while Haye has a sore pinky.

 

I'd lean towards Povetkin, prime for prime, though Haye's speed and power would have always kept him in with a chance. Trouble I have picking Haye is that Haye just wasn't that good a boxer. He looked sharp and slick to uneducated eyes, and did all the things that we expect slick boxers to do, but it was almost always his speed and power that got him the win, and oftimes than not bailed him out of trickier than expected situations against not particularly stellar opposition.

Povetkin was just a much better operator on a fundamental level, better basics, better composure, better ring control. While he could occasionally be vulnerable to faster boxers, he would almost always find his way back into the fight and pull away down the home stretch. That wasn't just a result of his heart and relentless workrate. He was an excellent adapter and would take over as a fight progressed through subtle things that could be missed on a fight by fight level, but became more apparent when viewed over a body of his work.

I can see Haye having some success in the early rounds, but by the halfway stage I think Povetkin starts to find openings and begins to break Haye down. Haye might last to the final bell, but I think the final few rounds become very one sided as Povetkin increasingly tags him up with short, sharp combinations to head and body that begin to unravel Haye and send him into survival mode.

If Haye has success it has to come early, before Povetkin has fully warmed up.

 

Pov also won a world title, the same fraudulent one that Haye did in fact.

 

thank you , you are right, haye was not an actual titlist either!

I cant believe haye duped me all that time.

i think now its even stevens, with neither man being of title winning ability at HW.

 

I agree, I was just saying Bellew would not have fought a prime Haye.

 

This would have been a good match, two evenly sized heavies.

 

i think pov by sd, back when he was pedvetkin.