Prime David Tua vs Some names.

Slower than Galento with no movement, defense, or durability. He would be destroyed.

Galento would add another highlight to his career.

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And this guy had Tua beaten before dropping the ball late.

 

Maskaev was outboxing Tua until he got caught. So was Rahman until he was caught after the bell. Tua could be outboxed as he was rather slow and pretty easy to hit. He was a very powerful man with tremendous power. I would suspect he would win against some of those names and lose against some. Thompson and Ibrigamov I think handle him easy. Schmeling skill wise would pick him apart just not sure he could handle a modern 230lb pressure fighter. 50/50

 

I am not high on Tua but he definitely stops Baer, Haye and Schmeling.

He would have a field day with Baer, a stiff as a board no defense slow and by modern standards terribly unskilled......timber, he aint taking Tuas hook. and Tua would land at will.

In order to beat Tua you need a strong consistant jab, movement and enough gas to kep it up for twelve.......if you fade down the stretch , loose focus due to fatigue and start trading, very , very few are going to be successful but for sure not some clown from the thirties or a German guy who started fighting in his twenties because he saw some film .....

Haye would never ever get in the ring with him that's for sure.

 

Why? Baer showed good awareness and defense of Galento's left hook and fought tall. Why wouldn't he do this against Tua?

Oleg was stiff as a board with no defense, and slower than Baer, he avoided the left hook. So did Wooden and Ibeabuchi.

Tyson could stop Bear, Klitschko or Lewis could stop Bear. But I wouldn't count on Tua to do it.

 

If Byrd could outbox Tua, Schmeling could. That's my take on it.

 

I think a prime Tua would

Knock out Shavers around the 4th or 5th round in a slugfest. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Shavers knocking Tua out either or at least dropping him. I think Tua would wear out Shavers with his pressure and body attack breaking him down.


Against ****ey I could see it going either way. I think ****ey has the kinda power where he could knock out anyone and Tua being a short come forward guy might be made to order for ****ey. At the same time ****ey is vulnerable himself and I could see Tua taking his head off with his left hook. Really a tough fight to pick a winner in.

I think Lyle and Tua would have a great fight something like Izon vs Tua. I think it would be pretty back and forth both guys landing bombs. I feel Tua eventually would wear out Lyle and finish him Lyle off while his back is against the ropes.

Stiverne and Tua would have a great fight also. I feel Stiverne would stand his ground and pick his shots well. While Tua would keep a relentless attack going. I don't see either man getting knocked out or tasting the canvas. In the end I feel Tua gets the decision win because of having better workrate throughout.

Haye I think could out box Tua for as long as the fight last but I feel Tua would get to him at some point in the fight and finish him off. I don't think Haye would be able to deal with Tua's power.

James Toney as a heavyweight would be an interesting fight. Tua is made to order for Toney but I feel in his prime his workrate and physical advantages would be too much. I see Toney content to stay on the inside and land clean shots but Tua to wear him down by banging away all over Toney's body. By the end of the fight I think Toney is completely exhausted and may even be finished. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Tua connecting on a left hook at anytime in the bout and putting out Toney's lights.

Samuel Peter and Tua would be interesting. I think Peter has enough power and strength to keep Tua off him with his jab like Rahman did. The only difference I don't think Peter could keep up nearly the same workrate and movement on his legs that Rahman was able to use against Tua in his prime. I feel Tua gets closer and closer as the fight goes on and eventually takes out Peter in devastating fashion.

Tony Thompson I haven't watched much of but what I have seen is he is a good defensive boxer. I think against a prime Tua he may be able to win a decision but I could also see Tua being able to work his way to a decision as well.

Max Baer I feel would be open to Tua's left hook and would get his lights put out.

Schmeling I feel could out box Tua its just a matter of whether he can avoid being caught and KO'd at some point in the bout.

Mercer and Tua can only go one way which is an all out war. I really could see it going either way I just think its a matter of who has the better night.

Ibragimov could move and out box Tua like Maskaev did but like Maskaev I think Tua would catch up to him at some point and take him out.

 

Oh come on...

If this fight went down you would all be sorry. When Baer is waltzing around the ring, ducking under Tua's predictable left hook just to show you how predictiable it is, putting him in headlocks and laughing at you as he mauls him.

You would all be like "Oh god, why did I think Tua even stood a chance. "

 

I disagree. I've never been very impressed by Baer and I don't think he'd have the stuff to deal with Tua at his best. Tua when on top of his game put relentless pressure on his opponents with speed, power and an iron chin. He mixed up his attack well to the body and head and could keep an unbelievable workrate. I don't see Baer being able to keep up with this workrate and I don't think he has the skills to keep Tua away from him. I feel Tua would bang away to his body and head, Baer would do a lot of holding. Baer would land some good combinations as Tua came in but Tua would always bring something back. I see Baer beginning to break down after about 5 fast passed rounds and Tua will eventually get to him with a left hook or something devastating and Baer will not be able to continue.

 

Which fight did this happen in? Oleg? Izon? Ike? Wooden? Byrd?
Rahman I?

Lesser fighters than Baer held Tua at bay for a good number of rounds with very basic skills.

You see a big, sturdy, athletic guy like Baer who could guard wide left hooks breaking down after 5 rounds, where as stiffs with suspect mandibles like Rahman, Izon, Wooden, and Oleg lasted over 10? Oleg was a sucker for left hooks and he saw this supposed prime Tua's coming over and over again.

 

Never that high on Tua but he was in good fights and has the tools to be dangerous enough for anyone but I think his ability to drop in out put and be out boxed hurts him. Interesting to see h2h arguments with Klitschko era guys

Tua I kind of hold in that Lamon Brewster category, very tough hit very hard though Tua I think hit plenty harder than Brewster but had their share of flaws and problems that prevent me from picking them in a lot of these match ups

 

Ike

 

I think Tua looked at his best in a close losing effort against Ibeabuchi. The workrate he maintained and combinations he threw were devastating I could easily have seen him getting the win in that bout. The Izon bout was also good , Izon was the kinda guy who gave Tua trouble a tall rangy fighter he threw a lot of straight punches and kept a consistent workrate and Tua broke him down and ultimately destroyed him. Maskaev fought a good fight against Tua and not only that Tua did not fight a good fight. Late in the fight though Tua buckled down and was able to stop Maskaev. Rahman was the exact kinda fighter who gave Tua trouble big, strong with a solid jab who could keep a high workrate. Baer was known for not being in the best shape and his workrate in the fights I've seen wouldn't be enough to keep Tua in his prime off of him. Tua was at his best up to the point he started putting on excess weight this slowed him down and from that point on I'd give Baer a much better chance of beating him though I still see Tua catching up to him. As I said from what I've seen Baer has never impressed me much hes a hard puncher and was big for his time I don't think he'd have been nearly as effective against bigger heavyweights and don't bring up the Primo Carnera fight or the Tony Galento fight because both of them were awful if you ask me.... Baer would have a good chance of going more then 5 rounds but around that time is when I see him starting to break down. I think he'd be holding Tua a lot and noticeably tired fighting in spurts and eventually Tua would flatten him.

Another note about Tua he was the kinda fighter who stylistically could beat some very good fighters but on the other hand some not very good fighters have a solid chance of beating him because of their styles. Anyone who didn't have great boxing skills especially a good consistent jab and long reach to keep Tua off them could be in for a very rough night against Tua especially when he was on top of his game in the mid-late 90's.

 

So Tua getting outfought on the inside by a 6'2" durable slugger is the route you are going to go with against Baer?

 

What fights? He was pretty active against Schemling, Carnera, and yes, Galento.

When did Baer ever gas out? He pressured Levinsky for 20 rounds with what was described as a ceaseless attack, man.


"Max Baer of California established himself as a leading contender for heavyweight honors in pounding out a 20 round decision over King Levinsky of Chicago, in a furiously fought battle featuring Reno's annual Independence Day celebration today. A vicious and almost ceaseless attack to the body brought Baer a popular decision. "

 

I'm thinking you didn't watch that fight. Tua never got outfought.