Prime David Tua vs Some names.

Oh, I've seen it and Tua lost many inside exchanges. I just haven't seen it in biased Tuafan vision.

 

The Levinsky is simply speculation the clips I see on youtube of it don't show any definitive proof of Baer's stamina and newspaper writing have been known to be less then accurate at times. None the less yes Baer can keep a decent workrate coming forward but against a guy like Tua I don't think that'll work. Also the fighters who did well against Tua aside from Maskaev in his prime kept a 80-90 punch workrate from range I don't see Baer being able to do this I see Baer trying to fight Tua like he fought Galento staying at range and throwing combinations and I don't see this working against the much better overall fighter Tua in the long run. As I said watching Baer has never impressed me much I will admit I haven't studied him as much as a lot of well known heavyweights from the passed because a lot of the footage from his time is **** or only shows highlights of the fight but from what I've seen I don't feel he'd be that effective against the bigger better conditioned heavyweights of the future like David Tua. I respect you're opinion its always difficult to compare fighters from such different eras especially in the heavyweight division which has changed rapidly over the years.

 

Earnie Shavers-Tua By KO, both are bombers but Shavers' stamina, defense and chin would let him down

Gerry C00ney- Tua by TKO, C00ney of course had power of his own but C00ney can't take Tua's best shot

Samuel Peter- Tua late TKO in a war... Peter would hold his own until he gasses out and feels the effects of Tua's shots

Ron Lyle- Lyle by decision. I think Lyle has the skills and movement to outbox Tua, of course exchanging some bombs at some point of the fight. A chance that Tua could KO him.

Bermane Stiverne- Tua by KO

David Haye- Either Haye decision or Tua late KO

HW James Toney- don't know. This one is tough. Toney could outpoint Tua with superior skills and defense but I'm not sure if Toney could take Tua's best shot. I guess Toney by decision.

Tony Thompson- Thompson by decision or Tua by stoppage

Max Baer- Baer was sloppy, but was a warrior with power. He could be hit and hurt. I think Tua by KO

Max Schmeling- Tua KO

Ray Mercer- Mercer was inconsistent as hell but if he shows up in prime form he could take a decision over Tua with his granite chin and jab. Also was not too shabby as a power puncher.

Sultan Ibragimov- Ibragimov by decision or Tua by late KO

 

If Tua could have won half the fights that you are picking him to win here, he would have got much better results in the real physical universe.

 

whatever, i think he could totally beat shavers and ****ey, Stiverne would be target practice. Peter, Baer, Schmeling, I don't believe those guys have a good style to beat Tua.

 

Tua basically ran into a brick wall, whenever he came up against somebody currently in the top 10.

I very much doubt that there are a lot of elite heavyweights from other eras, who he would have beaten.

 

Rahman, Oquendo Oleg Izon were /are top ten when Tua fought them.

Riddle me this, if Tua was such a tool why did Lemmie stay at range, did not engage and went for the points win ?

Baer the oaf gets laid out, that is a certain.

 

Because Tua was so limited and one-dimensional, it was simply easier for Lennox to win that way. I'm not going to pretend Baer was some exceptionally skilled tactician, but there is no reason to believe Tua would KO him simply because he scored some quick knockouts against Ruiz and a shot Moorer.

 

He did IMO. He got outworked and outfought.

 

You need to slow down with all that. In his prime, he lost to Ike in a good showing that could've gone either way. Lost wide to Lewis. And lost 6-4 to a prime Byrd. He later was fortunate to get a draw against Rahman while out of shape. But that's it.

What's most disappointing is the layoffs and poor conditioning after the Lewis fight.

And he beat a slew of contenders, many of whom would go on to hold belts + a scary showing against Moorer who went on to knock Jirov out.

He probably clocks in around 4-6 from the late 90s early 2000s era (behind Lewis, Ruiz, and Byrd but in the mix with Rahman, Holy, and Ike).

 

Lewis was complementary of Tua's defense. I don't think Lewis felt like he had an opportunity to go for the kill and rightfully fought a smart fight.

 

I think I had it 7-5 Tua and I believe Lederman had that score or a point wider for Tua. I preferred Tua's harder shots to Ike's volume.

 

But you didn't watch the fight in TUAFANVISION!

 

The fact he never tired and fought 15-20 round fights as an aggressor is definitive proof.

Fighters not normally known for high volume punching like Rahman suddenly became Marciano against Tua. That's because he was an easy inviting target and opponents didn't have a hard time getting off against him. Not really the mark of a great pressure fighter if so many guys are able to set and throw 80 punches against you a round.

And it wasn't always at range, Tua was overwhelmed in the pocket just as well.

Bear fought Galento by bombing him from range and anticipating his left hook. Galento forced the infighting by bull rushing in, but Baer would just clinch and use his size to maul him. Baer's holding and hitting tactics if allowed like Lewis, would be very effective at neutralizing Tua and busting him up.