Prime De la hoya vs Prime Kostya at 140 pounds. Who wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rayhogan, Sep 7, 2009.


  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No i was making a point not about how he fights in this fight but how fans in here will make judgement on things and they have never seen or know the proper facts.

    Everyone saying ODH winning easy is retarted.

    IMO most posters in General will call it how they see it having watched maybe one or two fights of a certain guy.

    If you were a real boxing fan you too would already know how talented and good a boxer Tszyu was by his amateur record and days.

    Im just pointing out some when they come in here and sound ****ing stupid comparing fighters with other fighters and how would they do when they havnt even seen the fight.

    Aka Tszyu vs Chavez he was saying it ended in the 5th. I was pointing out that it ended in the 6th due to is Cornermen saving his ass.

    I want Proper Facts before stupid posts.
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    What are you trying to make a point? Are you stupid or something? Look at that fight. That fight was Kostya tko a shot decline Chavez and it took Kostya to tko a shot decline no legs Chavez in 6 round. From the beginning of the first round if you can't tell Chavez was a shot fighter then you're clearly ******ed no offense. Chavez lost his punching power in that fight and he obviously didn't have any legs at all. Kostya should have finish Chavez off atleast in 2 rounds but couldn't.
     
  3. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh yeah i dig .. am i giving proper enough facts ?
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    My bad i was 1 round off from 5th to 6th. Silly me. Anyway it didn't help your arguement cause Kostya tko a shot decline Chavez in the 6th round while it took Oscar to tko a past his prime not shot Chavez in the 4th round. You do the math.
     
  5. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cheers.

    i think both oscar and kostya have their flaws but they are very simliar fighters with very similar strengths.

    i think oscar would take the fight simply because he's a more well rounded fighter.
     
  6. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    Hoya! Definitely Hoya!!
     
  7. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In my opinion this is a great match up and a pick em fight where you could make a good argument for either guy to win the fight.I think this will be a very tactical fight a boxing match with both guys trying to set up his punches in very skillful manner.

    I'm sitting on the fence for this fight but I believe it goes to a decision in a very competative and very close fight.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    #1... Oscar's chin was too great to ever be knocked out by KT.

    Oscar stops KT around round 8-9. Too big, fast, and too much firepower. Let alone the fact that Oscar was at his best at 140 IMO. Great technical ability with a virtually unmatched combination of speed and power. Oscar was also in GREAT shape at this weight with not even a hint of any stamina issues. Watch his great 12 round schooling of the 41-0 Miguel Angel Gonzalez at 140 if you need proof of that. No way that KT outboxes Oscar for 12 rounds and no way in hell that he stops Oscar. Oscar wins.
     
  9. Locke

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    Miguel Angel Gonzalez is a not a good example to make a case for De la Hoya.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    You're right. A good example is what De ls hoya did to Chavez in the first fight at 140 pounds. Unlike Kostya, De la hoya tko Chavez in the 4th round. And if you're a real boxing fan you would know that Chavez wasn't a shot fighter when he fought De la hoya but Chavez was clearly a shot fighter when he fought Kostya. <<<<<It took Kostya 6 rounds to tko Chavez.
     
  11. Locke

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    De La Hoya has lost all of his big fights with prime opponents so I wouldn't be so quick to count out Tszyu. So you think Tszyu has no chance to win at 140 against Oscar?
     
  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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  13. mev1

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    Kostya used to jump in with his chin up in the air, by the time he stopped doing that, he was old at the end of his career. Either way Oscar would have won. In their primes Oscar by KO. He was just too accurate and fast to miss that open chin.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    ^^^^^Whats that got to do with De la hoya vs Kostya at 140 pounds? Did De la hoya lose at junior ww division before? :think
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Especially when Tszyu stopped Miguel Angel Gonzalez was stopped by Tszyu at 140 12 months later when De La Hoya barely made MAG blink all night.

    The Ring magazine rates that (Wpts MAG) as one of oscar's top ten wins - It was in the issues covering the build up to the Floyd and Hopkins fights I beleive.

    I would pick Oscar to win as well, but to say that its a blow out is just bull****. Tszyu was an astounding boxer. I could see a 7-5, 8-4 kinda fight happening with some rough spots for Oscar big time.