Prime DLH vs. Prime PBF @ 147 Who wins?

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  1. WAYKURAT

    WAYKURAT Active Member Full Member

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    it will be a draw..pbf jr will run fast all night :|
     
  2. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar faded in fights later in his career.

    Again, I question your comprehension of the word prime.

    He simply doesn't fade in every fight.

    In the Mosley fight where he was "exposed" with simple 1-2's in a fight where all judges had the fight 7-5 in rounds that shows you have absolutley no idea what you're talking about.
     
  3. Danny_Rand

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    Again the evidence in there that he faded even in fights where he wasnt prime. Given the fights that he lost down the stretch such as Tito and Mosley. Even against Quartey there were points in the fight where he stagnated.
    You obviously are slow on the uptake. The fight was close in the sense that Oscar won the first 4 of 5 rounds. Mosley completely dominated down the stretch however and was firmly in command of the fight in the 11th. Infact if he wanted to he could have simply moved and picked OScar off from the inside, Mosley being the guy he is however chose to engage Oscar in a slug fest and Oscar being gassed was not up for it and was bested.

    Again stupid. Go watch the 11th and tell me what you see out of Oscr.
     
  4. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH wins this, probably by obscene ko. If this would have happened Floyd would probably be really retired now, talking like his dad, and trying to make a buck or 2 by helping train some obscure fighter.
     
  5. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again? Stupid? You're really self concious aren't you?

    When did you tell me to watch the 11th the first time? Mate - I've got the tape in the player at home, I watched it again the other night.

    So lets review your analysis -

    The Trinidad loss wasn't because he chose to run, he had faded. OK, sure, go against pretty much every concieveable piece of documentary evidence from actually using your eyes to watch the fight or everything proported from every ringside report or even the Legendary Nights doco where pretty much to the man people say "Oscar lost the fight cause he chose to run" - If you think stamina issues are the same as a gross tactical error - That's fine, however you're probably the first person I've ever state that stamina was the reason DLH "ran" in that fight.

    In the Quartey fight, Oscar closed the show in the 12th round. If that's evidence of stamina problems, then I add to my question of your comprehension of the word "prime" and add "stamina" to the list.

    Again, the pace and the fight and the CLASS of the first Mosley fight show me that the only thing DLH couldn't quite deal with was Shanes incredible hand and foot speed, which was the significant deciding factor to me.

    Again, Oscar's stamina certainly affected the outcome of the first Mayweather fight, however a prime one I would favour by 3 or 4 rounds at welterweight.

    Baldomir, Hatton, Mitchell and Judahe don't show me anything that a prime Oscar can't handle, I would pick DLH.

    You make it sound like he needs a pillow at round 8.
     
  6. heidegger

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    I say Floyd.

    It's very hard to make the rational argument....I just think that Floyd always does enough to win.
     
  7. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a close fight but i give Oscar this via SD
     
  8. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime DLH wins, a prime PBF was at 130-140.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Oscar would beat him relatively easy, to be honest.
     
  10. sdsfinest22

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  11. Gonzarelli

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    DLH would not have stopped throwing the jab after the 8th, prime for prime he beats Floyd!
     
  12. Danny_Rand

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    Well then mate, you should know what im referring too, unless you are totally remedial.

    You're a clown. Fighters get on their bikes when they are gassed out and cant punch anymore. Ala Jermaine Taylor every time he makes it past the 10th round. Oscar spent himself then tried to coast for the rest of the fight, it cost him the victory.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    Mosley stood right infront of Oscar. Jabbed him up he middle, and caught him over the top. He basically did the same 1-2 punch combination for the whole round. Oscar being tired as he was, could not pull the trigger. What was evident in the 12th round was Oscar was done. And if not for Shane being Shane and trying to give the crowd a show, he could have jabbed Oscar and footed it the rest of the round and still won. Oscar had nothing left.

    You obviously dont know what a defeated fighter looks like. Oscar had no problem handling SHanes speed for the first 5-6 rounds, of which he won atleast 4. It was when his apparent stamina issues came into effect, his inability to close out fights and his inability to fight at a sustained high level cost him.

    Mosley, friggin MOSLEY could outbox Oscar at 147, yet Floyd couldnt? Please.
    You dont need to look at Floyd vs those guys. Look at Floyd vs Oscr at 154, a weight Oscar was far more comfortable at then FLoyd. Floyd would use the same remedy Mosley used in their first fight. Again watch the eleventh of the mayweather vs Oscar fight and watch he eleventh of the Oscar vs Mosley fight, and see if there's any difference in how Oscar was beaten.

    I mean it sthe same ****ing 1-2 punch combination lol. :lol:
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    Oscar. Hell I had him winning the fight as over-the-hill.
     
  14. Danny_Rand

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    Shane Mosley the counter puncher :lol:
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    Gee I wonder if its Shane's incredible workrate thats keeping Oscar from throwing punches? Should have been popping that jab Oscar.
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley beat Oscar prime, your boy got a split when he had one foot in the career grave - Your logic of comparing a prime Mosley to what Floyd couldn't do with an OldLaHoya is flawed at best.

    Go and find me one article from a reputable source (ie Not boxing t a l k) that says Oscar's running was because he gassed. One. Go watch the Legendary Nights doco on the fight on youtube, then tell me he was gassed. Your whole claim is flawed given that Oscar DID gas against Floyd and he STILL only won a split!!!

    A split against old = Not boding well against a prime motivated DLH.

    Mosley in the first fight was way faster than Floyd at 47 too.

    I haven't bothered to descend into insults as you have throughout your terrible tenure at replacing p4pdabest as the worst of the Floyd huggers.