Prime Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao

Prime Morales beats Pacquiao in any weight class for me.

 

Morales lost his prime before 2005 atsch

 

Consider this:

A past prime Morales who was coming off a loss to a past prime Barrera in a brutal war had the balls to challenge Pacquiao ONLY THREE months after his loss to MAB, and beat the dog **** out of Pac. Imagine what a fresh, younger, more rested Morales at his ideal weight would do to a Pacquiao before PEDs!!!!

 

He doesn't relaise the Morales that beat Pacquiao was past prime :yep

 

Meant RAHEEM.

 

Ah,I see. Morales is one of those rare breeds, who lose their prime aged 27.

This isnt some guy who was having the snot beat out of him from the age of 17, and fighting in title fights in his teens.

Just because he didnt look great,doesnt mean he lost some mythical prime.

Maybe he just came up against good fighters, maybe he even had off nights???

The fact in that 7 years on, hes still competitive so I can only guess that this loss in prime has been REAAAALLLLLL gradual.

So in 2004 when he was having a FOTY against a prime Barerra, he was shot, or only just past prime??

I hear he was looking a little shot in his teens.

 

Morales is a mythical fighter really peaked when he was 15 years old.
by the time manny got to him and was not wearing pillow winning gloves he was in full flat decline.

 

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"splits are hard to do when father time has cought up with you!!! at the ripe age of 28":roflatsch

 

Mythical? It's a common occurance in boxing. Many fighters peak early in their career and fail to hit those heights, physically, again. It can be argued that Ricky Hatton was past prime at 28/29, for example. Morales is still competitive now, sure. However, even a blind man can tell he's a shadow of what he was.

 

Ricky Hatton wasnt past prime, he just came up against REALLY REALLY GOOD fighters.

The fight before the Pacquiao one, he looked arguably the best he ever did in totally dismantling Malignaggi.

Ill agree that now hes past his best, because hes 36 and has a lifetime of boxing behind him. All sports people start to dip in the 30s.

I see no proof that he was past prime aged 27/28 though. Getting beaten by good fighters doesnt mean you are past prime

 

He fought Pac at Super Featherweight the first time and won. Then lost at the same weight twice. Some will argue it was because of the gloves pac lost and others will say morales lost the 2nd and third fights because he was drained and on the decline.

 

Bull****! Nobody can beat prime Pacquiao. NOBODY! People who voted in this thread were Mexican boxing fans.

 

You mean, bulldozed his way through feather-fisted Malignaggi. He battered him, roughed him up because Paulie wasn't ever going to deal well with the intensity and ferocity that Ricky brought, prime or not. Remember Lazcano before that? Rocked and nearly put down several times by a journeyman. Also looked like **** againt Collazo, pretty ordinary against Urango. I remember all the talk after that fight being about Ricky looking like a fighter who was past peak.

 

Are we discussing a prime Pac vs a prime EM? At 122 or 126? Or a PRIME Erik vs the version of Pac who fought @ 122 or 126?....becuase my answer depends on how you answer.

 

The Lazcano thing gets way overblown.

Hatton won 11 rounds of that fight.

Collazo was a good fighter at a weight Hatton had never fought at before.

Urango...meh, he won pretty easily, granted Urango was nothing special.