Prime Evander vs Klitchko

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  1. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Either fight would be good because Holyfeild will press the action for sure. He'll probaly KO W Klitchko and go the distants with V Klitchko with either on of them winning.
     
  2. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield in his prime would have too quick for either brother. That isnt to say any of the fights would have been easy . I think V poses any champion problems with his size. W on the other hand would pretty much run as his chin really doesnt stand up, but again could pose problems.
     
  3. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No matter how you twist it, Holy had health problems in the first fight with Moorer, He WAS robbed, they didnt score the round he put Moorer down a 10-8 like they should, that cost him in the end.
    He lost the first fight with Lewis, however in the second he gave Lewis all kind of problems giving him a tough fight, and this was a 36 year old Holy.
    Look at the combos he fired against Foreman or the war he gave Bowe(Who at his peak, was a hell of a lot better fighter than any of the klits ever could dream off).
    Actually we are talking about a true great, against two wanna bees, who only rule due to the division being all time low in terms of talent.
     
  4. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you actually took the time out to watch some fights instead of glancing at boxrec you might not sound so stupid.

    Holyfield would beat them both.
     
  5. Double Jay

    Double Jay Active Member Full Member

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    Both brothers beat him by KO.
     
  6. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually only comment on fights I watched at least twice, with and without commentary.

    Holy is overrated H2H, because fighters with tons of heart tend to get overrated. He won one out of five against Bowe and Lewis, and won that fight against an overweight Bowe by the smallest margin possible in boxing. Bowe and Lewis are of a similar prototype of HW as the Klitschkos. Holy has rarely dominated at HW, few knockouts against fighters who showed up in shape. He is an overachiever with great heart but that doesn't make him better H2H than the Klitschkos.
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holyfield is terribly overrated in H2H comparisons. Yes, he's a boxing hero, having overcome adversity over and over again. A memorable warrior. But H2H he gets beaten by a good dozen HWs in history IMO, the Klits being part of that group.
     
  8. irishdjc33

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    Vitali's never been down on cards...not even to ATG LL what makes you think holy would Decision Vitali?! I don't see it
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well prime Bowe beating prime Holyfield just shows us that even in his prime Holyfield was beatable.

    I agree that should it turn into a brawl like Holyfield/Bowe did then both Klitschko's would lose and Wlad would get KO'ed. But the Klitschko's don't fight like Bowe their not as static and won't stand and trade with him. I just don't think Holyfield can pressure either Klitschko enough to win.
     
  10. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm suprised to see Vitali being held in higher regard than Wlad when it comes to a phantasy match up vs. Holyfield. I think that Wlad (2009/10 version) is a way more unfortunate match up for Holy than Vitali.
    Wladimir has never had any problems with boxers, even against very capable ones like Byrd, Chagaev, Iggy or Chambers - obviously all a level below prime HW Holy, but the ease Wlad destroyed every single one of them should make you think if a more skilled boxer could change the outcome or if it's just the completely wrong way to approach a fight with Wlad Klitschko.
    Holy was no destructive puncher, by no means featherfisted either, but he cannot be considered heavy handed so KTFOing Wlad inside 25 seconds of the first round by sexy inside fighting while cracking his china chin is kinda...utopian? When was the last time Wlad let himself involve in a toe-to-toe fight? He certainly knows how to avoid that ****. I cannot even imagine Holy outpointing Wlad. Have you ever seen him being outclassed in terms of pure boxing ability in a single round? The only rounds Wlad loses are KDs caused by strange panic attacks (which hasn't happened since 5 years, and since we're talking about the mentally robust 2010 version of him is it fair to rule that panic-**** out?) or rounds where he was so cautious with his jab that the opponent got the round for ineffective aggression.

    Tall, skillful fighters are Evander's cryptonite which is the reason why he could not beat Bowe (1 MD win, great..) or Lewis and both Klitschkos are quality-wise not that significantly below those two so I'd bet my money on the Klits, especially Wlad, who is all wrong for Holy it terms of style.
     
  11. tbp82

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    I went Holyfield by decision here. He would have outboxed the brothers but not sure he gets the big blow on them as thier jabs (especially Wlad) would have kept him somewhat at bay.
     
  12. coog

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    What makes you think that he would be too quick. I am not saying that Evander wouldn't beat the klitschko's after all it is a fight. However the Klitschko's are quick especially Vlad on his feet. he is also very strong and right now very smart and hits hard. Evander did have a great chin but I donot think that he could get close enough consitantly to defeat him. people have a lot of plans for him but after they run into that stiff jab a few times they change thier attitude.
     
  13. Greco

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    I think that Holyfield would be able to grind out a decision against Vitali. Though I could see Holyfierld stopping Wladimir I think more than likely it will look a lot like his past fights, but with Holyfield trying a lot more. I think Wladimir will try to control distance with his jab and Holyfield when Holyfield begins to get inside of the jab Wladimir will clinch and lean on him, tiring his legs out and either stopping him late or earning a decision.
     
  14. RUSKULL

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    Wladimir would keep Holyfield on the end of his jab & he'd KO him late or cruise to an easy decision win.

    Vitali isn't as fast a Wladimir & I don't think he has the same one punch power of his younger brother either. I could see a very close decision either way or a late Vitali KO of Holyfield or even a TKO due to injury win for Holyfield.
     
  15. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    I think Vitali would give Holyfield trouble because he's big and likes to move a lot. I could see Holyfield winning a decision based on aggressiveness and taking the fight to Vitali.

    Wlad would get knocked out by Holyfield because he doesn't move as much and as soon as Holyfield hit that chin, he'd go in on Wlad.

    I think Holyfield would beat both. He'll win a decision over Vitali and he'd knock Wlad out.