Prime Ezzard Charles vs Prime Joe Louis

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Who wins and how

  1. Louis KO

    7 vote(s)
    43.8%

  2. Louis TKO

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%

  3. Louis UD

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%

  4. Louis SD

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%

  5. Charles KO

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  6. Charles TKO

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Charles UD

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%

  8. Charles SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    We saw how Charles out boxed a past prime Joe Louis in 1950, but what if he had to fight a circa 1940 Joe Louis? Would Louis stop him?
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    I think Louis would have to stop him. Charles could win here if he fought a stick and move type of fight.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes imo . In his autobiography Louis said he thought he would have stopped Charles in about7rounds ,if he had been prime.
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Prime 4 prime I'll take Joe. I think he stops him.
    I'll always consider Charles a greater LHW
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes,a very good heavy, but a great LHvy maybe the greatest!
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes either Charles or Tunney IMO
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    On a side note Louis fought at light heavyweight as an amateur. He even sparred in the gym with Eddie Futch who was a lightweight when they both were amateur boxers.
     
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  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Fair...although I rate Spinks at both their levels at 175
     
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  9. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    I think a prime Charles had even more tricks and moves to show Louis. At their respective primes I would guess Louis would win a very close decision
     
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    It should be noted that in their 1950 fight, Louis jab was still good enough to find Charles. Louis just couldnt set up his combinations and deadly right hand like he once could
     
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  11. janitor

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    I think that there is a good chance that the Louis of the second Walcott fight would have stopped him.

    Charles took care of business very convincingly, when he actually fought Louis, but his performance does not scream "this is a guy who would have done well against prime Louis."
     
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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    and I agree ..
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    For sure
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah I agree
     
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  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Louis busted Charles up badly when he lost to Ezzard. His face was all swollen up.

    In his prime I think Louis would KO him. Ezzards gameness and boxing abilities would get him to the 8th.
     
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