Prime Fedor Vs Prime Couture

You are right, but Fedor being with M-1, the UFC(Dana White) woudn't have allowed for any type of publicicty from M-1 and I'm not talking co promotion, FFS they didn't even allowed Fedor to sign with Tapout you really think they would have allowed him to put M-1 on his banner ?

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, the cut is for your NEXT fight. Calm down mister I know it all about ****in MMA
http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/report-werdum-released-from-ufc

Andrei Arlovski ($160,000) def. Fabricio Werdum ($80,000)
So it's OK to get 80k when you lose against AA ut if you loose against JDS now you end up with a contract stating 10k to show and 10k for a win ? Wait, isn't that a cut bigger then 50%...HELLL ****IN YEAH !!!
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_70[/ame]

It doens't change the fact M-1 is better and more stable then contract then the UFC would have offered Fedor, that's ****in it.
And that's why he still live in the same old ****in appartement and still driving an old ****in honda...YEAH. He cares about money as a security, not as a goal !

 

Again, nobody here knows how much more or less money he would have made overall.

That was the offer on a new contract, not a cut from the current deal. Part of it was they felt they could afford to cut him so they low balled him, turns out it was a mistake as he came back strong.

So a failed contract negotiation does not mean "they can cut 50% of your fight purse if they don't like the way you fight." It was simply two parties not agreeing to terms on a new contract.

How the **** could you possibly know this? First M1 is hardly "stable" it is a company that basically exists as a showpiece for the managements fighters.

Both companies that agreed to let M1 "co-promote" to let Fedor fight went out of business because of it. Bodog, Affliction, both out of business.

After Fedor lost to Werdum, all of a sudden M1 has to lay off several workers and shut down an office.
http://mmafrenzy.com/15111/m-1-glob...ollowing-fedor-emelianenkos-strikeforce-loss/

 

Not to mention it's pretty hard to take anything you have to say regarding business seriously after comment about "Dana buying the UFC when it was already successful"

 

I agree

Are you being that dishonest ? So the guy get 80k for UFC 70, 2 win and 1 loss later for his next contract he get 1/8 of is previous contract ?? Are you serious ? I can understand a cut, even 50% isn't that bad, but 10k is just ridiculous !

Both companies that agreed to let M1 "co-promote" to let Fedor fight went out of business because of it. Bodog, Affliction, both out of business.

After Fedor lost to Werdum, all of a sudden M1 has to lay off several workers and shut down an office.
http://mmafrenzy.com/15111/m-1-glob...ollowing-fedor-emelianenkos-strikeforce-loss/[/quote]

First off, that was a fake rumour, M-1 denied it soon after it was released...
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/M-...nies-Company-in-Panic-Over-Fedor-Defeat-25507

Second if you would have understood what Fedor didn't like in the UFC we woudn't have this argument. They didn't want PPV%, they wanted fixed number and if Fedor won the belt he was bound by contract to defend it until he lose and if he lose the UFC can cut him if they want.

M-1 contract is better because there is always money coming in and no chance to be cut off. Clear and simple...

 

I think it was scurla that made the post several month ago...if I find it again I'm gonna show it to you, I went to page 46 and couldn't find it...maybe it's included in another post, but I saw this here with all the references...**** this I'm gonna start a thread about that and you'll see !

 

Excuse me? :huh When Zuffa bought the UFC it was close to bankrupt. As for being successful thats rather subjective in regards to "what" you're measuring its success by. Financially up until the Zuffa purchase and compared to the financial might of the UFC currently the answer is no. In terms of bringing MMA to the mainstream most definitly yes.

 

And this will change the facts that A) Dana White did not buy the UFC, B) That it was anything but succesful when the Fertitta brothers bought it. How?

 

It's my fault I didn't took the time to explain each and everything I wanted to say. The argument I made wasn't about the financial sucess of the UFC, it was about the fact MMA was already mainstream when the Fertitta brother bought the UFC and appointed Dana White as the CEO. So I apologise for that

Like I said it wasn't about the money, it was about bringing the MMA to the public. So it was you that made the post several month ago ?

 

It was not mainstream at all.

I think you are trying to say they bought it after the rule changes, or at least were not the only force involved in getting the rule changes implemented; they were quite influential in getting the rule changes accepted by more states though.

 

You're the one making the aspertion. I dont recall anything of the case.

 

If you want to see it that way, it's your choice. Take it from the fighter perspective, you are offered a certain amount the first time, I agree with you that a 2-2 isn't a good position to get a raise or even to ask for the same amount, but it's not a reason to offer just 10k for a fighter, it's an insult. I don't care about all the sponsor and those **** because like you said earlier, we don't have those number so there is no reason to speculate about that.

I agree with you that 1 big amount could be better then continual payments, but it was clearly not Fedor opinion. So if you want we can argue until judgement day come what contract would have been better for Fedor in the long run. The bottom line is that Fedor didn't like the perspective of being cut off if he lost. He never thought he was the greatest and he knows that someday everybody loose. From that perspective Fedor was right so he took the safe deal !

 

My mistake then, I'm gonna start a thread to see if anyobdy remember that...

 

no he was rocked yall didnt see paul daley come in and hit werdum with a left hook

 

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