Prime for prime: Andre Ward vs Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have just said Calzaghe needed Lacy as a signature win and that you rate Kessler. Yet Ward only fought a faded double vision suffering rusty Kessler that Calzaghe had already beaten when prime. You have tied yourself up dummy lol.
    As for Ward cleaning out the division. How do you work that out? He beat faded Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe, who beat Froch, who beat Bute, but not once did Ward face any of those fighters when prime or undefeated.
     
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  2. theanatolian

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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Well what's the excuses for Degale and Groves beating Smith better than the overweight dragged up version that Ward beat?

    See anyone can do this for any fighter.

    I find you cut quite a pathetic figure HerolTurd, a work shy, scrounger who's sad existence is confined to calling a boxer who's live has panned out much better than yours ever will.
     
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  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    a win is a win.

    a run in gibbering fear is a run in gibbering fear.

    anyone cant say they are the same
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I've not called anyone anything. tell me where.

    all your conjecture, less meaning than your actual argument. good luck with improving on it.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Best place for Herol is on ignore. Thats where I have him.
    He really is that irrelevant and clearly doesnt even know many of the fighters he comments on.
    Still beware in engaging with him. He used to look for anywhere I was posting and seemed to be stalking me. Really weird and probably best avoided
     
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  7. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    I didn't say Calzaghe needed lacy as a signature win...I said many consider that his signature win....its a win vs a one dimensional, C level, muscle bound fighter.....IIIIIIIIII think Kessler his his best win....and its a good one....but that's about it.......but typical brittard/most likely also golovkin superfan has to twist my words around to make them say something I didn't...I didn't say Calzaghe needed lacy as a signature win...I say many thought it was ...which is why signature was in quotations

    ward went through 168...then took on a top 5 p4p unbeaten LHW...and is rematching him...when did slappy joe ever fight a top 5 p4p guy even in his natural division?
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Once again you have tied yourself up with lack of knowledge and stupidity.
    Lacy wasnt considered one dimensional until he fought Calzaghe. That was because Calzaghe was a step above.
    Kessler may be Calzaghes best win at SMW though I would say it is debatable with the Eubank win which was also excellent and then there were his other top SMW wins.
    Ward didnt go through 168 he beat a faded fighter Calzaghe had already beaten who went on to beat Froch, who beat Bute. Ward didnt go through all when undefeated and prime. Ward then didnt go through 168...then take ion a top 5 P4P fighter, he took on a bloated MW in P Smith. Thats right, then a novice in Barrera, then another blown up fighter in Brand before he fought Kovalev who arguablys best win was a Calzaghe victim from years earlier.
    Calzaghe did go through 168 and far more convincingly against greater comp and reigned longer and Calzaghe did go up and beat a P4P fighter who was considered a legend and who would go on to rule again after Calzaghe retired.
     
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  9. The Shockmaster

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    hahahah a "novice" in barrera.....even wards harshest critics said barrera was a real good test at LHW.......your whole post means nothing to me or anyone...its full of clownish homerism.....that's why people disrespect joe here...because of guys like you....I like joe too...its too bad.....

    now all of the sudden kovalevs best win is just a Calzaghe "victim"? ahahaha
     
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  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL you are a joke of a poster.

    By what name do you refer to Calzaghe as?
     
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  11. Odins beard

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    Making no sense as usual.
     
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  12. MAJR

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    Bernard Hopkins was #4 P4P when Joe Calzaghe, the #5 P4P, fought him in 2008.
     
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  13. The Shockmaster

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    ya man...ok..im sorry....beating a 40 year old that throws 6 punches per round is an ATG win...I forgot...this is the beyond reproach joe Calzaghe we are talking about...how dare me
     
  14. MAJR

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    Why are you acting as if I was taking a shot at you? I just answered your question. Dont hate the facts man, and dont shoot the messenger.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Calzaghe totally destroys him in 3!!!!!
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    OK, that was for Herol. :D

    I still think Calzaghe wins on workrate but it would be a Hopkins-like affair with not much in it.
     
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