Prime for prime, best heavyweight ever - head to head

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  1. LONGROB

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    Did you bother to notice in the McCall fight how frustrated Oliver was getting? He was trying to win the bout, but kept getting counterpunched and tagged. IMHO, he checked out to keep from getting stopped.
     
    LONGROB, Jan 31, 2010
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  2. LONGROB

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    Ali, Holmes, Lewis, Tyson, Vitali

    Vlad also beats the crap out of most ATG Heavies, but would struggle against guys like Foreman.
     
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  3. LONGROB

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    That was Ken Norton at his peak, and Ali had already lost his legs and his ability to move for 15 rounds. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the 70's version of Ali loses to a lot of fighters mentioned in this thread.
     
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  4. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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  5. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Regarding Lennox Lewis.

    Underated whilst fighting.

    Becoming overated whilst retired.
     
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  6. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    ali

    lewis
     
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  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali.
     
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  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali and Tyson. In their primes they were practically unstoppable.
     
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  9. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    H2H, Marciano is underrated
     
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  10. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    What an intriguing topic
    I think Ali beats any heavyweight ever, but would have to work very hard against guys like Lewis or Tyson.
    Foreman in his prime is another guy that would beat most boxers EXCEPT for maybe Holmes, Ali, and the "moving" boxers, the chess players.
    Vitali and Wlad may beat most heavyweights besides Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, and would have their hands full with Ken Norton or Ron Lyle.
     
    tommygun711, Mar 6, 2010
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  11. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In his prime ---- Ali rules.
    No one comes close.
     
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  12. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis, Muhamed Ali !
     
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  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fedor emelianenko^^
     
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  14. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    how can you not pick ali here? i know all the euro's are saying lewis and a lot of people are saying '88 tyson, but come on. prime ali would have whooped lewis's ass and would have definitely outsmarted and completely discouraged '88 tyson. he would have KO'd both.
     
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  15. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on your point of view.

    Run Foremans 2nd KD of Frasier side by side with Lewis's KD and they're almost identical, both up at 7-8 both looking very unsteady on their feet, Frasier was allowed to continue, Lewis was not.

    I agree it should have been stopped by there's a good argument for why it could have continued.

    Anyways, McCall and Rahman losses weren't 'prime' Lewis.

    Oh, and Ali takes this one whoever he's fighting.
     
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