Prime for Prime, Dmitrii Bivol vs. Roy Jones Jr ?

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Prime for Prime, Dmitry Bivol vs. Roy Jones Jr ?

Poll closed Dec 12, 2022.
  1. Dmitry Bivol

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  2. Roy Jones Jr

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  1. Clinton

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    I do too
     
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol. NoNeck. He is on my ignore list
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There isn't anyone on Roy's resume who he beat that Bivol wouldn't beat

    Imagine what Bivol would do to a healthy James Toney at 175, let alone against the extremely listless walking dead version Roy beat at 168 who was as flat as a pancake. Bivol would use his speed and footwork to box his ears off

    Same thing with Ruiz

    B-Hop ain't beating him either

    None of them are
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ also wouldn't lose to anyone of Bivol's resume and no not the 40 year old Beterbiev either.

    It's also unfair to compare some of RJJ's opponents against Bivol as RJJ fought fighters in 4 different weightclasses where as Bivol has campaigned at only one weightclass.

    Bivol wouldn't beat Ruiz at Heavyweight either.
     
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  5. The Real Lance

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    Any HW's you would confidently pick Bivol to beat today (Or past three, four years)?
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    The thing is with Ruiz is he was Don King controlled and he was allowed to clinch and fight his kind of fight. Ability wise he's ordinary but the sheer physicality and size difference i don't think Bivol would be able to overcome.

    Bivol is not a big puncher even at Light Heavyweight he's had 1 stoppage in 7 years and that was against a late replacement "Malik Zinad".

    RJJ had amazing speed/athleticism and considerably more power than Bivol. I don't think Bivol's peekaboo technical style with mediocre power is going to benefit him against big physical Heavyweights.
     
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  7. Serge

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    Roy would get violently KO'd in bloodcurdling HL reel fashion if he fought 12 rounds vs Beterbiev, let alone 24

    Bivol turned pro a month before his 25th birthday, is essentially the same size as Roy was, and would've turned pro at lower weight had he done so when he was Roy's age

    And we know what methods Roy used to ascend through the divisions and how he wasn't being drug tested at all for the first 10-11 years of his career and even when he started to undergo some semblance of testing it was about as stringent as ''Did you take steroids for this fight, Roy?''

    I think it's extremely unfair on Bivol to ignore that

    If Toney and B-Hop were career 175 pounders Bivol still beats them

    Bivol would school Ruiz. Roy beat him because he was much faster and more elusive and because the ref would not allow him to hold Roy, Bivol does exactly the same. Too fast of hand and foot and too skilful. He won't be there to be hit
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Nope he would not especially not against a 40 year old Beterbiev.

    Toney yes as it was his worst weightclass for whatever reason.

    If Hopkins had moved up to Light Heavyweight at a younger age however then i'd say it's debatable Bivol would beat Hopkins i see a close nip and tuck technical fight.

    RJJ is considerably faster than Bivol with considerably more power.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

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    Prime Roy schools 40 year old Beterbiev because Bivol was prime and peak Roy beats peak Beterbiev too. Rjj counter punching speed will keep Beterbiev thinking and methodical similar to bum Yarde, he wasn't pillowfisted at the weight like Bivol
     
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  10. Serge

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    Prime Roy would get violently knocked out by Beterbiev, even the 40 y/o version of Beterbiev. His chin was just not built to withstand that kind of power and Beterbiev wouldn't even need to land flush
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    RJJ would knock Beterbiev out with a left hook Callum Johnson had a prime Beterbiev on bambi legs with a single left hook RJJ would finish the job.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

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    Prime Roy never got knocked out, we can distinguish ones physical prime years by assessing Roys achievements post 34 years old. He couldn't replicate his atg feats after 35 because of age. Different people age better or worse
     
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  13. Serge

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    Callum Johnson is a huge puncher, Roy 100% get slept out cold from that shot

    Roy was knocked out in the amateurs with big gloves and head gear on by an Irish nobody

    He was dropped heavily by Del Valle

    He was sparked out cold from a love tap by Glen Johnson

    Knocked absolutely senseless by Tarver who had Roy dribbling baba spittle, eyes in separate orbit, and trying to make out with the canvas
     
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  14. Serge

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    Prime Roy was a lab creation who gets KO 1'd by VADA if he fought in this era

    He barely fought any legit punchers and KO artists throughout his steroid enhanced prime

    Stop it he was not shot at 35 y/o :lol:
     
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  15. Serge

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    :lol:

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