@ Fnatic - Whether you take what i said literally or figuratively about prime Tyson, it most certainly applies to Holyfield.
No listen to what im saying. Riddick comment is non sense because Riddick is a top tier HW, He could fight anyone and be competitive. Douglas beat Tyson Holyfield smashed Douglas If you can stand up to Tyson then you're chances to beat him have increased dramatically.He doesn't have character he has today back then even in 88.
I know styles can make a fight, i realize that. But when it comes to exceptional fighters, they can overcome some/many aspects of the style factor. A prime Tyson qualifies as one of those few exceptional fighters that can do this. Styles will make a difference, yes, but a prime Tyson finds a way to win against any version of Holyfield. Tyson beat Tucker back then, Tucker in the 80's was just as good as an early 90's Holyfield, maybe even better. You last comment doesn't necessarily apply to a prime Tyson.
....further, how would a prime Holyfield beat a prime Tyson exactly anyway? There is no way he's gonna finesse prime Tyson for obvious reasons, bangin with Tyson is out of the question as well. Holyfield would get owned going toe to toe with prime Mike. Even Holyfield's exceptional counter-punching ability would be nullified by a prime Tyson. I just don't see how Holyfield beats prime time Mike.
Toe to toe he wouldn't get owned lol, Tyson kept his power in the 90s and still couldn't KO him plus Tyson wouldn't stand toe to toe he used his speed to kill people in the 80s his power was the benefactor.The fight is a hard one but I choose Holyfield
LOL, Tyson was a headhunter with single bombs after prison.....could not go hard 12 rounds ever in the 90's........abandoned bodywork.....did not move his head.....squared up..... no angles.....still fast hands and power but did not set anything up...no combination punching...and Holyfield still held and held and held and fouled and fouled and fouled that vastly diminished version of Tyson , could not keep him on the deck and got only brave when Mike was completely out of gas, see above, poor stamina after prison. As far as Holyfields counterpunching, well, Tyson after prison discarded the jab to set up what was coming behind so it was not too difficult to time his single bombs. The key if those two would have ever fought in their respective primes would have been Tyson bodypunching and IMO would have been the beginning of the end for Holyfield.
Tyson had such amazing stamina in the 80s who did he show this against? Tyson will bodypunch Holyfield to defeat despite Holyfield having granite chin,mind and body
One thing that surprised me in Holy v Tyson was that Holyfield's hands seemed quicker than Tyson's. I was pretty surprised when I saw that.
wtf you talking 'bout? Tyson may have won his comeback fights, but it was obvious he wasn't the same.
Like i've been saying, Tucker is very under-rated. He was a good fighter, aside from Tyson (and possibly 85-87 Spinks) he was the best active HW in the 80's. But broken hand or not, prime Tyson was better.
the speed of tyson is one of the most overrated things in the history of boxing, i donĀ“t know where hell became this crap about " tyson was almost how fast as ali", tyson never was that fast, his speed is overrated based on his videos when he was 15-17 and he weighed in the 190-200 range. the mythical prime tyson "86-88" another mythical crap, just like tokyoo douglas. MIKE TYSON NEVER WAS TESTED AGAINST A YOUNG GREAT FIGHTER DURING HIS PRIME, AND WHEN HE FACED ANY GREAT HW FIGHTER(NOT SHOT) HE LOST.. PERIOD. ANY OTHER THING IS BLABLABLA. ALI WAS NOT IN HIS PRIME IN THE 70S, AND STILL HE DID BEAT A PEAK FOREMAN, LEWIS WAS NOT IN HIS PRIME AND STILL HE DID BEAT A PEAK VITALI IN 2003, prime tyson, kevin rooney,cus damato.. blablabla. pure crap
Tyson's best performance post-prison was Holyfield II before the earbite, he was using head movement bobbing and weaving and got some good shots in the third round I think a couple of left hooks. But even then Holyfield still handled him.