Prime for Prime-Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I started from the time both suffered their first defeats. If you want to bring in the junkies, alcoholics, and old men that Tyson fought before Douglas battered sh it out of him, feel free.
     
  2. Foxy 01

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    Do you really think that Lewis sitting there counting his $140 million gives a fuk about what halfwits like you think of him? Or do you think he sits there laughing that Tyson is going around doing after dinner speeches for peanuts?

    Who cares who is held in the highest regard. One is fukin loaded, the other one hasn't got a pot to pi ss in. If you hold Tyson in such high regard send him some money.:lol::lol::rofl
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    The funniest part is the poll shows there are still 111 dummies in the world, who rather than believe what their own eyes showed them when Holy and Tyson fought, would rather live in their little fantasy world where Tyson was semi shot, had problems blah, blah, blah ( make up your own feeble fukin excuse ) whilst Holyfield was at the top of his game.

    Do these morons even KNOW Holyfield was hand picked by Tyson ( who paid Lewis step aside money, and dropped a belt to make sure of it ) due to the fact that Vander was considered to be the easy option?
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Well, Tyson's crackhead sparring partner dumped Lewis in the next area code. In 2 rounds even. At least Tyson was able to beat his crackheads. :rofl

    Ohhhhhh me.
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why all the Hate about who was better in their prime, sheesh.

    I do not believe Ecander would always have Mike's #. He trained like a friend, was less far from his prime & crucially fought widely with his now greater & in part PED fueled strength. All credit to him (except for trhe drugs). With his power & clinching often he was able to win.

    I do not belive a peak Tyson who threw much better combinations & moved better, would be so thwarted.

    Tyson's competition was pretty good overall.
    He had a superb Peak Run, in frequency & dominance of fights.
    You can tear down almost anyone's competition, but if you examine their records before & after the fights, it was fairly good compared to most.
    There is a whole thread somewhere about it.

    Tyson is not excused for his lapses. But if he really was much better before due to focus, training, corner, etc...That must be taken into account.
     
  6. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you know it was Holyfield and not Tyson (or both) using drugs?
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's here with the PED excuse, Holyfield was about as likely as Tyson to use drugs. Tyson trained is ass of for both bouts too and came up short twice against a past it war torn version of Holyfield.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't know nothing, it's a convenient excuse for a Tyson fanatic who can't accept that the Real Deal was a better fighter that's all.
     
  9. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets put the shoe on the other foot......put Evander thu the justice system and put him away for three years in the can.

    Have him fight a handful of cans in a handful of un eventful rounds and have him facing Tyson who once for all trained like he should train while being active the entire time while Holyfield was locked up.....

    Hint.......timing is indefinitely lost after such a long lay off without seeing any boxing gym
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield still kicks his ass and stops him late....
     
  11. Alexandrow Vids

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    Holyfield in any fight because he will always show the weakness of Tyson.

    Tyson´s Invincibility myth exists only in teenager heads or
    morons believe that. No one, especially tyson was invincible and anybody
    has his stylistic Nightmare.
     
  12. Foxy 01

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    Shame he couldn't avenge his defeats like Lewis though isn't it? Left crawling around the ring like a baby looking for it's dummy by Douglas, and sliding down Lewis's legs trying to get his member in his mouth, is highly embarrassing. You would think he would have wanted revenge.:lol::lol::rofl

    Whoops.
     
  13. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    2 questions.

    1. Do you seriously think Tyson was doing the usual " inmates " work while he was locked up?

    I would bet good money he had unlimited access to the prison gym.

    2. What about Ali's 3 year lay off?

    He didn't feed on a couple of tomato cans then collapse when he met the first guy to fight back.
     
  14. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Not Tyson's fault Douglas ran from the rematch. And not quite as bad as Lewis drooling like a newborn fukkin baby after Rahman landed ONE shot. That poor chin was shattered a couple times by single pops now wasn't it? The other time against said crackhead, both in the heart of his prime.

    Oopsie
     
  15. VVMM

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    Foxy dude... old guys ? Lewis beat the 40 years old Weaver.
    Holyfield beat the 42 years old Holmes and the 42 years old
    Foreman! Say a older then 38 years old Tyson opponent !
    I hope you can find an example otherwise you proved your idiotism.