Prime for Prime-Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson

Not true for every legend, Henry Armstrong is the best example for it.

Bernard Hopkins is also an example.

Just stating something irrelevant to the topic.
And now I see you're heavy_hands and you probably think I'm doing this on purpose, lying in the corner to pick moments where I can make you look like an idiot or something like that.
Maybe I do.

 

holyfield always stops tyson. 'never goes the distance.

 

yes, but the only thing that you got is to seem an idiot yourself.

(about the topic, yes maybe "every legend" was an exaggeration, my point was that even if tyson looked great at 19 in 1985, he was pretty green at this time and he was not in his prime)(obviously you knew what i ment, simply you need to show your part of troll)

 

Holyfield was physically much stronger when he faced Tyson then he was getting pushed around by Bowe and Foreman. If you knew anything about boxing you would have understood my point. Holyfield was physically and mentally better equipped to face Tyson when he actually did face Tyson. The reckless defensive lacking open Holyfield of the early 90's would have been put on his ass but a quick combination punching Tyson of the late 80's.

 

what a bunch of crap.... jesus... holyfield 90-91 was by far better than 96 evander ( sick heart), ali 74 was probably stronger than ali 67, but still ali 67 was much better, your point is ******ed, holyfield would kick the ass of tyson because he had the number of tyson, period, get other hobby gardener

 

What is Holyfields best win?

 

again.... your point is? who had better rivals...? ali 70s or ali 60s? and who was better ali 70s or ali 60s ? :hi:

 

Ali has nothing to do with this discussion. Has Bernard Hopkins had better wins later in his career?

Holyfield was mentally and physically better equipped to face Tyson later in his career. He was physically stronger, more patient due to his lack of stamina which forced him to fight in spots on the inside. The younger Holyfield liked to free swing from the outside. That would have been a death sentence against Tyson when his timing and combination punching were actually still in tact.

 

ali has nothing to do here when you have no answer :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl,

 

I've see-sawed on who I'd pick several times over the years. I think it's safe to say that either fighter could win in a prime for prime matchup.

One thing I noticed when I watched Holy v Tyson 1 the other day, was how effective Tyson was when he went to the body. The one and only round where Tyson consistently went to the body was the 5th, and it also happened to turn out to be Tyson's best round of the fight.
He visibly hurt Holyfield when he went downstairs in that round, and it set up his punches to the head. Inexplicably, Tyson stopped punching to the body for the remainder of the fight and Holyfield took over.

I think Tyson at hs best was a terrific body puncher, and the 2nd Ruddock fight aside, it's something that he neglected once he came out of prison. It's certainly something he neglected in the Holyfield fight, except as I said above, in the 5th.

So for now I'm picking Tyson, but Holyfield would always be a very difficult opponent for him to beat.

 

Well said. I've had similar thoughts.

 

I think Tyson stops him. Evander was all around a greater fighter, but Mike in his prime was incredible. Mike in his prime was better than Evander ever was, but that was just a 2 year duration. Evander took over as he got experience. When they were initially going to fight in 1990 I think Mike might have been too big for Evander.

 

evander holyfield would beat every version of tyson every day of the week, holyfield was smarter, tougher, he ha dmore heart, more stamina, he had the number of tyson, evander and foreman were the 2 styles kryptonite of tyson.

 

I'll repeat this because it's absolutely true - "A prime Tyson (86 - 88 ) had, at the very least, the potential to beat anyone in history, and could've easily without question held his own with anyone at anytime. Furthermore, the 87-88 version of Tyson was as close to unbeatable as anyone will ever get, and as close to the perfect package as any heavyweight ever. Tyson's only real kryptonite was himself."

The 87-88 Tyson isn't losing to anyone. No way, no how. There may be a handful of heavyweight greats that possess the skills to take him the distance or even possibly a draw, but i can't see anyone definitively beating this version of Tyson.