Prime for Prime: Mike Tyson .Vs. Joe Louis

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, can't really see Tyson being floored by Braddock or rocked by Conn. The guys that KO'd or hurt him (Douglas, Ruddock, Bruno, Holyfield, Lewis etc) were in another division when it comes to punching power.
     
  2. Ramon Rojo

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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am in no doubt that Tyson had a much better chin but that is not everything.

    Some "durable" fighters have unexceptional chins but outstanding recuperative abilities and ability to fight while hurt. Louis is verry much an example of this.

    At the end of the day it is not their chins but their punching ability that is the issue.

    I would be confident that both Louis and Tyson could eat a few George Foreman right hands as part of a fight plan if they had to. I would bet nothing about how Louis would take Tysons shots or Tyson would take Louis's shots.
     
  4. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he's a far superior fighter..I don't usually talk about all that advanced ****,but Tyson is really in a different league when it comes to talent..Just watch Film of both.Yeah and Tyson beat better opponents. Joe would end up in the Hospital.and I love the brown bomber
     
  5. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your probably one of only 3 people in the world that think that and mike tyson isn't one of them
     
  6. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    This is no doubt a fight that could go either way. Tyson is extremely overrated by his fanatics in head to head matchups, but quite often underrated by the casual fan - probably a subconscious attempt to offset the fanatics.

    Mike would be a bad matchup of Louis because I feel that such explosive speed and power, in addition to pressure would really trouble his relatively stationary style. I have no doubt that if Tyson is wreckless in his attack that Louis will make him pay, and make him pay big. His power is up there with the best at heavyweight, including Tyson, and his handspeed isn't too far behind. Nonetheless, I think Tyson takes this by stoppage in around the 8th round. I know it wouldn't be an overly popular opinion, but Tyson is one of only 3 fighters I would pick against Louis. But once again, Louis could knock Tyson if he got wreckless.
     
  7. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok..I guess im one of the 3 then..Ali said he couldnt beat mike.what does that mean? nothing..Fighters are humble..
     
  8. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    I cannot see either not taking the other seriously so.....a tremendous and explosive fight when they open up. Not entirely sure Blackburn could come up with a game plan(based on Joe's physical ability) that negates a motivated and advancing Mega-Tyson.
     
  9. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if you read what i have put i think tyson beats louis but in no way is he a betetr fighter, i am pretty shocked you even think this but than again thats upto you.
     
  10. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    :good
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Pretty much how I see it.

    I think the defining factor would be strength. Mike is only better at one range, just shy of chest to chest, mid-range, I suppose, is how we describe it. Louis can shorten the gap to close range easily unless Mike can bull him about.

    This is a fight I would never lay money on before the fight, but would be confident of my pick after one round. Push me, I'll pick Louis by KO.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah.

    I've heard My Dinner WIth Conteh describe it as "tide-turning" chin. Tyson does not have that type of chin, he is not the type of fighter that gets a hiding and turns the tide at the back of it.

    Louis can get hurt and win, maybe if Tyson is being battered, he can't.
     
  13. Nick Balsamo

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    I agree. Louis ranks 2nd all-time behind the great Ali and Tyson is about somewhere from 7 to 12... But considering potential advantages for Tyson, it's hard to pick against him here.

    He's as fast and powerful than Louis, he should be stronger and he's not a candidate to flash KD's like Louis is. His movement and defense in his prime is better. He moves his head allright, he's a fast starter too. Louis could be in trouble here.
     
  14. janitor

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    How can you possibly argue that Tyson beat better oponents than Louis?

    On that score at least Louis has a substantial advantage.

    I would also question how you could conclude that Tyson was more talented. Tyson is basicaly only good at fighting one way while Louis has many more layers to his game.
     
  15. TIGEREDGE

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    to beat a prime tyson with a style like JL's, you must have a really good chin. louis chin was far from the best

    he never had the speed to avoid mikes 100 mph barrage. tyson ko in 7

    i fancy louis to beat the tyson of 89 onwards. louis would be able to time the more predictable tyson