funny how everyone apart from him is a delusional fanboy yet we all seem to agree and he is the one with the strnage ideas.
LOL the Dumbass that thanks Dougless is better than Louis Called me a Dumbass Seriously dude Dougless pulled it together for one night but still average amoung the Greats in the HW division
That NIGHT he was better than Louis ya.he wasnt a great like Joe **** no.. I have Joe Number 2 all time..H2H I rank him about 8..
if your saying that a prime tyson wasnt elusive then your kidding yourself.. he was one of the most elusive fighters ever.. you want proof? watch tyson vs furguson.. he was virtually untouched until well after he won the title
These "historical match-ups" always have some questionable assumptions, and no better are they illustrated than in this thread. Louis getting bombed out early just because Tyson has power and a good offense? That's one hell of a leap of faith there. Bonecrusher Smith went 12 rounds with prime Tyson, so did Tony Tucker. James Tillis and Jose Ribalta (who?) lasted 10 each. Thomas went 6, Bruno went 5. It's quite frankly an insult to suggest that Joe Louis, a guy who made 25 championship title defences, couldn't last as long or longer than these journeymen. Yet according to most here, Louis is a cert to get knocked out - not just knocked down, but counted out - in 3-4 rounds? The ONLY times Louis ever got KOd was after repeated punishment, round after round. He never got KOd by a single shot. Louis had a solid chin, even at 38 he went 8 rounds with Marciano, which is more than most lasted whilst in their prime. I can accept someone thinking Tyson is slight favourite here, even though I don't agree, it is at least a defensible position. But to say that Louis is just going to crash out like some tomato can is an absolute joke and just marks you down as a boxing ignoramus. Let's not forget also that it's Tyson who is going to be put to the sword just as much as Louis. Joe was after all one of the most fearsome combination punchers in the heavyweight division, and known as a deadly finisher once he had his man hurt. If there's an early KO it's just as likely to be Tyson as Louis IMO, and in the later rounds - well, Tyson wasn't exactly known as a 12 round fighter, let alone good for a full 15.
Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I guess you think Frank Bruno or Frans Botha has far superior defence and chin compared to Joe Louis?
so you have tyson number one as you have already said he is pretty much betetr than louis in ebery way with betetr opponents.
H2H Louis beats more fighters than than tyson would tyson looses to everyone with a Chin that isnt Scared Shitless while in the ring with him Tyson Brokedown Mentaly Way to Often for him to be a Heavy Favroit over many of the HW Champs in the past tyson also Faced Soft Opponents most of his Career in the 80's
Nah..I rate louis number 2 based on his number of defences..The Walcott win was big..I have Tyson on any given day from 8 to 10..I Think PEAK Tyson had a lot on Louis and im referring to natural talent so dont lose your panties..Its all about debating..But Mikes opposition is really ignored..he gets put down when in reality his opponents were better than or just as good as most in the top 10 or 15...I just dont think some fighters would fit in well in this era..Louis who i love happens to be one of them..Heavies have gotten so big and fast for their weight