Prime for Prime: Wladomir Klitschko vs George Foreman

wlad fears ko in 2 by a 38 year old retiree neverman, so hes not in this universe going to step into a ring to get koed faster by a prime unbeaten world champ with a string of early kos.

 

And my past affirmations of you were off base by how much? Not at all apparently.

Foreman was slow, and unathletic. Wlad is too fast, tall, and maneuverable for Big George.

And I read sparring accounts that places Wlad's punching power with the same menace that George delivered his shots with. Some even say he hits harder, and I wouldn't deny it considering Wlad's athletic superiority.

 

foreman doesn't have the gas tank or speed. a peak wladimir wins a UD

 

foreman was not slow, don't try and revise history.

Wlad is not superfast either.

WHat kind of joke is this. Wlad hits hard but hes not in the top category, and its irrelevant since he never uses it unless his opponent is safely gassed out. That's how doubly irrelevant your point is.


Like I said originally before you butted in with these **** points, Wlad unrs from 38 year old retired nevermans early KO of him, so in what universe he is going to go up against one of the hardest hitters in the universe is a joke too far.

 

did not even think for a second...foreman by ko....

 

Wlad is much faster than Foreman ever hoped to be. Wlad would enjoy a speed advantage over super heavyweight peers like Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, or Vitali. You're trying to insinuate that Wlad would not hold a substantial speed advantage over someone like George whom many did consider slow? Please.....


And who are you to say he doesn't belong in the upper echelons of power punchers? Phil Jackson stated that Wlad hit harder in both hands than Lennox Lewis, and I read two separate accounts of sparring partners who have been in the ring with both Wlad and Foreman who both say that Wlad has power similar to Foreman, if not actually hitting a tad bit harder. Freddie Roach said that Klitschko had an advantage over Mike Tyson in terms of power. Who would I be to question the veracity of the statements these men made when they have felt the power first hand. :conf

And a second not, you asserted that Wlad doesn't take full advantage of his power due to his style, but what you failed to realize is that in spite of all of this he is still racking up knockouts left and right. It also doesn't help your point when Klitschko doesn't need to throw every punch with bad intentions to hurt his opponent. He hits so hard that a shot with 75% of his total power would still have the ability to drop somebody.

Refute this empirical evidence if you can.

 

Big George by brutal KO and early.

1) Wlad reaches for the clinch.

2) George with the quick 2 handed push to the chest followed by a brutal straight right.

3) Wlad collapses in a heap.

 

against foes hes not met?? where you imagine he is faster?


some empirical evidence that is!

plenty say foreman hits harder than most, far more.

against fatboys and wasters who anyone could KO once they gass, yes.

you havemnt measured that, another imagined invented empirical evidence from you.

give me some and I will start.

 

If Foreman were an undefeated up and comer now, people would say he is slow,clumsy, and another sad example of current American heavyweights. Nobody would give George a shot in hell of defeating the bigger, faster, stronger and plain supperior Wlad. Wlad would use his fast,powerful jab to keep the fight at his distance, George would be confused, overwhelmed and totally outclassed. After Wlad finaly Kod Foreman in 8 or 9 , everyone would say he is too slow, to small at 217 or too fat at 260 , and the current crop of heaveys are aweful.
People would claim Wlad would never stand a chance vs Ali, Frazier, Tyson ect., and say he still hasn't fought a single good opponent.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, but sports evolve. This fight would look very similar to any of Wlads recent fights. Its not even competitive. Imho.

 

they would say that about teenage Olympic gold medallist who went on to have a string of undefeated early KOs? Who was able to destroy world champions inside a few rounds back to back?
a record that easily FAR outstrips Wlads to that point.

REALLY? Are you really going to argue when your argument is so weakon every front?

I count bull**** on your part, in huge amounts. Desperate ones.

 

What makes you say he would win an Olympic gold medal today? What makes you think he would have a big string of early kos? Are you assuming he'd be matched up with Deontay Wilders leftovers?

My thing is that the average weight of one of Georges KO victems is what, 208? I respect George a lot and everything he did in his era, but times change. The way I see it he would not be given a shot at beating Wlad at all if he came up now.
Hell, Id even go as far as to say if prime Sam Peter was around in the 1970's, he would have laid waste to the entire division in spectacular fashion, and most of you would be talking about how Sam would blow out Wlad in 1 round. That's really just the way I see it.

 

the only assuming here is by you, you assuming that everything George foreman did has zero significance.

hint - you are supposed to go with the evidence, not rage against it with nothing except 'goerge foreman wasn't fat enough to beat todays gassing fatboys.'

 

Looks like I have to go against the grain. I don't think George could handle his power and jab-esp. as the fight wears on--Big George had major stamina issues and I can see a Wlad right hand putting him on ***** street

 

This guy is insanely delusional.

A fat 50 year old Foreman who was retired for more than a decade literally came back and won the lineal title when the likes of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis were around and about 2 years before Wlad's debut.

Yet Sam Peter, the same guy that got outboxed by an obese James Toney would lay waste to everyone in the golden era of Heavyweight boxing?

Boxing sure has evolved..


atschatsch

 

The evidence is that George enjoyed serious size, strength and power advantages over the fighters of his day, which is where the Kos and brutal stoppages come from. Can you disagree with that? Its the same sort of advantage Wlad enjoys over the fighters of today for the most part. George would be no exception. Wlad would be by far the largest big man with skills George ever faced. That's a fact.
Wlad has blasted out many fights that are in that 6'3, 217lb range. Georges KO % drops dramatically when the opponant is 210 lbs or higher. That's also a fact. Given these facts, it seems to me that boldly claiming George would blast Wlad out quickly and easily is pretty stupid. Even the guys that Kod Wlad early in his career are bigger and stronger than any decent heavyweight George ever fought or especially knocked out.
I know it isn't all about size, but there is weight divisions for a reason. Lucas Matthesaye isn't blasting out Carl Froch in a round or two. Wlad enjoys a similar size disparity over George, so I have a hard time imagining how so many people would assume George could pull that off. I'm sorry for makig it clear how wrong you are, but I hope I was able to at least teach you something here. Good luck with your new found education moving forward.