prime fraizer vs prime tyson

tyson ko

 

Tyson in long or short fight. Probably short. I'll mention something not yet said by anyone, and you can comment: Tyson had excellent defense, Frazier was usually easy to hit. Tyson had footwork, and could go side to side or around a guy in close while pnching with fast hand speed, Frazier couldn't. Anybody disagree, or feel it is/is not a factor?

 

Frazier is one of my favorite fighters but he isn't better than Tyson in any way. Frazier also just bobbed up and down, and against Mike would be bobbing into Mike's uppercuts. Also look at punches that beat Mike. Jabs and uppercuts. Fraziers big punch was the left hook, which Mike would weave under all night. And Mike hit almost as hard as Foreman, but much faster and more accurate, he could put Joe down. I don't see this fight going past 3 rounds.

 

Frazier by mid round KO- Frazier had the mental fortitude Tyson lacked and once Mike realized he couldn't take Joe's heat he would find a way out, quit, or DQ himself.:smoke

 

Tyson by early KO! Too many people rate Tyson on his pension fund fights these days. Foreman's punches were telegraphed, slow, but admittely extremely heavy punches and Tyson would have avoided them easily and put Foreman down and out.

A prime Tyson was an animal that IMO demolishes any heavyweight except perhaps a prime Ali or Lewis who possibly had the skill to use their reach advantage to keep Tyson at bay. Even that's questionable though, because a prime, super fit Tyson moved so quickly, ducked and slipped his way inside so effectly with such aggression and nasty intent, that even with their abilities he had more than a puncher's chance of stopping either of them. Unlike the Tyson, post-prison who was a slow, weak unfit target for Lewis pick off.

And dont bring Buster Douglas into it please. Tyson, generally giving away so much size and weight to his opponents was always in danger, every single fight of making one single mistake, getting caught, and getting beaten. Geeez, people make excuses for Hatton who was 1kg lighter than PBF, yet when Tyson gave away so much weight in just about every fight, no one thinks twice about it because it's the heavyweight division. IMO, boxing authorities need to consider putting in a weight limit for the heavyweight division and adding a super heavyweight division or the likes because we human beings are growing bigger and bigger and we need a new division up there. Can you imagine Tyson trying to hit Valuev in the head? He'd just about need a stool.

 

Tyson hasd mental fortitude. Unless you want to believe Teddy Atlas, who started all the talk of Tyson being a coward. Atlas also tries to take credit for being Tyson's first trainer, which he wasn't, but there are people who are starting to say he was.

 

Tyson 86-88 levells any version of Frazier.

 

Cus dAmato was Tyson's first trainer i reckon?:huh but Atlas trained Tyson as an Amatuer in the early 80's.

 

It would look exactly like when Tyson destroyed Frazier.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AwTE0mVGCMI

Joe wouldnt be able to do anything, simiar to what happened to him versus Foreman.

 

Tyson KO win by no later than the 3rd round. Tyson hit with sharper/harder punches then Forman and look at what Forman did to Frasier. It wont be any different here

 

tyson would crush him like foreman.

 

You are right, it was D'Amato, till D'Amato died. He did have Roooney helping more and more as Cus got older, with Roooney taking over after Tyson was pro. Atlas did help ou tin gym a few times, and once went to a tournament alone with Tyson to work Tyson's corner. Mike won, but Atlas had him all messed up in head when he returned. Shortly after D'Amato kicked Atlas out. Tyson was only 15 then, and Atlas had little to do with his development as amateur, nothing as pro. But try telling some people that, and......:yikes

 

Frazier would ko Tyson, Tyson couldnt intimidate Joe, Tyson cant fight backing up, Tyson's the school yard bully type he will walk over people that are intimidated but soon as some one stands up and fights he wilts,Smoking Joe Frazier wins by ko in 7-8 rds.