Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mark ant, Aug 13, 2019 at 9:42 AM.
I'm flabber(Ruiz had a lot of fleshy flab)gasted at these answers. I'd pick Bruno to systematically break Ruiz down or even land something hurtful early on. Ruiz is not Tyson, Lewis, Witherspoon or Bonecrusher. Ruiz isn't a Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, Razor Ruddock, Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas...
Bruno KO 5.
Ruiz has faster hands than Bruno and has power in his punches too.
Ruiz had a better guard v AJ than Tyson had v Bruno, without Rooney he was unfocused, Lewis`s punches were wild v Bruno, Steward shortened and straightened his right hand, Witherspoon looked sluggish v Frank, Bonecrusher didn`t have Andy`s hand speed and caught Bruno because he fought in straight lines coming in, Harry Carpenter even mentioned that during that loss, Morrison didn`t have Andy`s chin and Tommy would have knocked Frank out with the first hook that landed anyway, no way could an old Holmes berat Ruiz, Ruddock just relied on one punch mostly, Dokes was easier to hit than Ruiz.
I see you trying to be all slick and slip Tommy Morrison in there.
Ruiz would hit Bruno so hard he'd develop a NY accent. Those deceptively fast hands would make him forget his proper, British English and have him swearing like kids in a Modern Warfare 2 lobby. He'd get off the floor more angry and confused than hurt, wondering "did I really just get dropped by Gabriel Iglesias? I have to stop getting high and drunk at the same time". Bruno would be yelling at the ref like Zab Judah after his chicken dance like its the ref's fault he got clipped. It would get shared 2 million times in 2 hours and Bruno would lose all his followers on Twitter.
Ruiz wins by TKO in the 8th due to Bruno's desperate holding and stalling tactics talking to the ref.
So ...... your point is?
Think Ruiz outboxes him for dec win
These 2 .... really nothing else to be said
I pick Fat Andy Ruiz, for such a heavy guy, he has the speed of Sugar Ray Leonard and hits just as hard as Butterbean.
All he has to do is get the fight in America and Frank brings his B game. And he's not beating many quick handed fighters with his B game.
Actually, I think John Ruiz might win a decision over Frank even. DKP would see one of those controversial decisions benefitting his guy. And his guy was never Frank Bruno.
But Joshua fights in the modern era, so automatically we have to dismiss any logical assertions against him. Sorry mate
Bruno had the same flaws that cost Joshua and then some. I think it probably would have gone the same way. Bruno lacked effective head movement, stamina and didn't really know how to defend himself, just like AJ. Ruiz would probably stop him in the middle rounds.
Amazing how after the Joshua win, Ruiz’s standing seems to Sky-rocketed through the roof. Will he enter the top 20 all time greatest heavyweights if he wins the rematch as well?
Well, his Olympic wins have been questioned, there was a lot of dubious officiating that went on at the London games, accusations of corruption and bias is one of the many reason the IOC has dropped recognition of AIBA. Joshua fought in a relatively weak era of heavyweights and even then some of his wins are suspicious, the early stoppages of Takam and Klitschko. Now look at the Dillian Whyte situation, the British commission let him fight despite a positive A sample and didn't even inform Oscar's camp. It's not hard to put two and two together and wonder if Eddie Hearn basically has the BBBofC in his pocket and Joshua's been benefitting from hometown advantages, lifting belts off paper titlists and frequent cherry picking of opponents. That's a harsh assessment, but it's not hard to come to that conclusion at all. What I'm saying is Joshua's record isn't all that promoters and networks make it out to be.